Regional F/O's with no ATP/PIC..Are we hosed?
#52
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
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Not according to their F/O mins I can't. The website says ATPL 1000 turboprop PIC. I have no desire to be a 2nd officer cruise relief pilot. I actually want to do a take off and landing every once and a while. I actually love to fly..go figure..I'd rather fly my Piedmonster Dash for peanuts then just push buttons and talk on the radio now and then.
What exactly do you think you'd be doing at JAL or Cathay or Emirates??? Do you think a A340/777/747 FO hand flies raw data approaches to mins every other day???
Last time I jumpseated on a 74 a few years back, the CA had done 1 landing in the airplane in the last bid period, each of the FOs had about 2...
Sounds like long-haul ain't in your future girl!!!!
#53
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Position: DD->DH->RU/XE soon to be EV
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The thread isn't THAT long yet.
At DAL, is the lodging the newhire's responsibility the entire time of training? Or is it just until the completion of indoc. Then, when the equipment/domiciles are awarded, if the pilot held a base OTHER then ATL they are accommodated along with per diem from there on out?
At DAL, is the lodging the newhire's responsibility the entire time of training? Or is it just until the completion of indoc. Then, when the equipment/domiciles are awarded, if the pilot held a base OTHER then ATL they are accommodated along with per diem from there on out?
#54
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Uhhh...you just kind of contradicted yourself..."I'd rather fly my Dash for peanuts than just push buttons and talk on the radio now and then."
What exactly do you think you'd be doing at JAL or Cathay or Emirates??? Do you think a A340/777/747 FO hand flies raw data approaches to mins every other day???
Last time I jumpseated on a 74 a few years back, the CA had done 1 landing in the airplane in the last bid period, each of the FOs had about 2...
Sounds like long-haul ain't in your future girl!!!!
What exactly do you think you'd be doing at JAL or Cathay or Emirates??? Do you think a A340/777/747 FO hand flies raw data approaches to mins every other day???
Last time I jumpseated on a 74 a few years back, the CA had done 1 landing in the airplane in the last bid period, each of the FOs had about 2...
Sounds like long-haul ain't in your future girl!!!!
#55
The thread isn't THAT long yet.
At DAL, is the lodging the newhire's responsibility the entire time of training? Or is it just until the completion of indoc. Then, when the equipment/domiciles are awarded, if the pilot held a base OTHER then ATL they are accommodated along with per diem from there on out?
At DAL, is the lodging the newhire's responsibility the entire time of training? Or is it just until the completion of indoc. Then, when the equipment/domiciles are awarded, if the pilot held a base OTHER then ATL they are accommodated along with per diem from there on out?
#56
You shoot holes in every idea someone throws your way.
Your dream job isn't going to fall into your lap, and neither is mine. That's why I left Mesa and moved on, to better my resume and eventually get the job I want.
I could have stayed there and complained, not upgraded, and hit the top of the F/O pay scale, but I got sick of it and bailed. I've never been happier.
Will you upgrade in the next 2 years at Piedmont? You likely would at Compass (key word likely).
#57
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Nahhh, just yours. Be that mad internet guy if you want. I already complimented you on your choice to go to Compass. And your answer to that is instead of discussing without becoming instigative and snide, you get snippy with me because I don't want to work for Compass? [...].
Last edited by USMCFLYR; 06-29-2010 at 07:10 PM.
#58
Early on, you said you wanted to be at Cathy, but would not take a cruise pilot. If Cathy was what you really want, I would take just about any flying job with the company since they presumably upgrade from within (I know nothing about Cathy, so assumption may be wrong).
If you see a furlough on the horizon, I would look into a voluntary LOA and start looking for a job the offers ANY PIC. There are several good 135 companies which will pay around $30k to start in a Caravan. Even a high performance piston single could earn mid $20s. They aren't sexy, but you will be PIC, dispatcher, and have first hand contact with the customer: resume bullets that are all valuable.
You have a job (at least for now). That is better than many folks right now. You are current, again better than many. Crying in your beer won't help.... and it is a waste of beer.
Start planning now, be ready to adjust your plans, and if make a bad choice (or rather when, since all of us has) let it go and start planning again.
Unless you are somebody's daughter at Super Great Airlines, there aren't any shortcuts.
#59
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If by that you mean as the industry changes, you modify your plan to get to your ultimate goal, fine. But if you mean you don't really have some kind of plan (including contingency plans), then you are unlikely to end up in a place you want to be.
Early on, you said you wanted to be at Cathy, but would not take a cruise pilot. If Cathy was what you really want, I would take just about any flying job with the company since they presumably upgrade from within (I know nothing about Cathy, so assumption may be wrong).
If you see a furlough on the horizon, I would look into a voluntary LOA and start looking for a job the offers ANY PIC. There are several good 135 companies which will pay around $30k to start in a Caravan. Even a high performance piston single could earn mid $20s. They aren't sexy, but you will be PIC, dispatcher, and have first hand contact with the customer: resume bullets that are all valuable.
You have a job (at least for now). That is better than many folks right now. You are current, again better than many. Crying in your beer won't help.... and it is a waste of beer.
Start planning now, be ready to adjust your plans, and if make a bad choice (or rather when, since all of us has) let it go and start planning again.
Unless you are somebody's daughter at Super Great Airlines, there aren't any shortcuts.
Early on, you said you wanted to be at Cathy, but would not take a cruise pilot. If Cathy was what you really want, I would take just about any flying job with the company since they presumably upgrade from within (I know nothing about Cathy, so assumption may be wrong).
If you see a furlough on the horizon, I would look into a voluntary LOA and start looking for a job the offers ANY PIC. There are several good 135 companies which will pay around $30k to start in a Caravan. Even a high performance piston single could earn mid $20s. They aren't sexy, but you will be PIC, dispatcher, and have first hand contact with the customer: resume bullets that are all valuable.
You have a job (at least for now). That is better than many folks right now. You are current, again better than many. Crying in your beer won't help.... and it is a waste of beer.
Start planning now, be ready to adjust your plans, and if make a bad choice (or rather when, since all of us has) let it go and start planning again.
Unless you are somebody's daughter at Super Great Airlines, there aren't any shortcuts.
I'd be worried that taking a cruise pilot job at CX would result in getting stuck in that position for years. Maybe someone that knows about Cath can shed some light on that.
Last edited by USMCFLYR; 06-29-2010 at 07:14 PM.
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