Regional F/O's with no ATP/PIC..Are we hosed?
#81
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Is TPIC the most important thing?
Unfortunately, it would appear that the most important thing to a pilot looking to move to a major, any major, is Turbine PIC. The second most important thing is that the Turbine PIC be acquired while flying Part 121. This being the case, a quick upgrade at any regional would be the best thing that one could hope for, which means that the criteria for selecting a place to work has less to do with QOL and more to do with logbook entries. The thinking being that the 1000 hours 121 TPIC would be the ticket to open doors. I don't think most of us really want to live that way, though, which is why this is such a difficult issue. What's better, living in base, making 42k per year as a senior FO, and having a tolerable QOL, or commuting for 29k Captain pay at a different regional flying 10 legs a day, but getting 121 TPIC time?
#82
Nahhh, just yours. Be that mad internet guy if you want. I already complimented you on your choice to go to Compass. And your answer to that is instead of discussing without becoming instigative and snide, you get snippy with me because I don't want to work for Compass? [...].
The rest of the post was simply to motivate you to make a change. Someone did it for me, and I'm happier because of it.
Again, best of luck to you.
#83
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With all due respect Zapata, I don't think you read deep enough into what I wrote. It wasn't about the money, it was about taking a job at a shop that was created for the SPECIFIC purpose of undercutting a pilot group under the same company. IE; Gojets, or Freedumb when that was an issue.
#84
So, you can either stay at AE, Skywest, Horizon ect for 8+yrs as an FO or go fly boxes and have your type and turbine PIC time in 1-2yrs...
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Before anyone gets too warm and fuzzy about Cathay, better double check with the guys on pprune for details on SO recruiting. I believe they are only hiring Hong Kong locals (or those who are willing to live without a housing allowance in HK). HK isnt a place where you can find cheap housing... so be careful. DEFO hiring is non-existant currently(and even if it was you would need PIC turbine), and the mandatory retirement recently changed from 55 to 65. If Cathay brings back the expat benefits and housing allowance in HK I would jump on the opportunity as well, but until then i'll pass.
#86
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Jetblue dropped their minimums to allow FO's at slow growing regionals to apply right before the recession and Deltas minimums arent out of reach either. I think if you keep plugging away at the TT, keep your record spotless, do some volunteer work, and continue to build the resume you will be fine.
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They drop their minimums to get their sons/daughters/nephews/friends hired on. It had nothing to do with feeling bad for senior regional FOs.
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They drop their minimums to get their sons/daughters/nephews/friends hired on. It had nothing to do with feeling bad for senior regional FOs.
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I agree
I know ALOT of guys that flew for Ameriflight in the Metro and 1900 that went on straight to the majors with zero 121 time. Ameriflight would be the better bet compared to a regional... Your advancement in airframes in a lot of ways is up to you. If you're willing to move around you can be in a BE99 in 6-8 month. I knew guys at AMF who got on the BE1900 after 1yr...
So, you can either stay at AE, Skywest, Horizon ect for 8+yrs as an FO or go fly boxes and have your type and turbine PIC time in 1-2yrs...
So, you can either stay at AE, Skywest, Horizon ect for 8+yrs as an FO or go fly boxes and have your type and turbine PIC time in 1-2yrs...
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With all due respect Zapata, I don't think you read deep enough into what I wrote. It wasn't about the money, it was about taking a job at a shop that was created for the SPECIFIC purpose of undercutting a pilot group under the same company. IE; Gojets, or Freedumb when that was an issue.
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