Any news from the meeting with Delta yesterday?

 

just the crickets is all we have heard. Which I hope is a good sign. The company may not of shown up and said "it's dead in the water have a good life" I think they are still talking which is better than nothing.

 

Good news is first flow award came out Monday. So our first 9 pilots have received class dates. Now the hope is that we can keep it going.

 

What class date did they get?

 

Im going to say somthing here that i hope does not create a controversy. I am flighting to make sure that this aquisition of mesaba is fair for all of our pilots but i especially don't want mesaba pilots to get screwed because of this. I don't want any MOA or anything, I just want a straight up 1 for 1 integration. If mesaba is allowed to keep the flow however, I would like to work at Delta as well and I currently am trying to market myself and network to try to get it, but I would hope that the flow would be extended to those of us that want to work there as well if we are all on the same list. If not thats going to create some tension for sure - and what happens if there is a flow back if only half of the pilots on the list can flow up? And also what happens when mesaba is not a delta connection carrier anymore when the saabs are gone and mesaba is left flying for united, usair and continental.
Just some food for thought, i hope that the flow stays in tact, i just want to be a part of it if it does.

 

I think the only way mesaba will keep the flow will be for pinnacle to get the flow for all of us here after integration is complete. I don't want to have a flow for a couple reasons. 1) I will most likely never benefit from it. 2) It could hurt the chances of us getting hired at Delta before we reach the top of our list. 3) It decreases our job security by trading it for a junior mainline guy.

I think persuing a flow is not a good idea and I hope we just keep the "preferential hiring" instead.

 

you bring up valid points, i guess my point is is that i want everyone to be on the same page. We either all get it or we all dont get it. I want what is best for all of us and the number 1 priority is a new working agreement that is acceptable, then a fair integration, then the flow.

 

8/16/10 for seniority but they wont attend class until November.

 

Yeah I just do see any way that the flow will be able to stay in place much longer. I am glad a few people got to move up but once the transition is done it will not make sense to have the flow anymore. Mesaba and Colgan are merging. Colgan doesn't even fly for Delta. What happens if people have to flow back. There is nothing in our pinnacle contract that allows that so they cant flow here. And I am sure they wont be allowed to flow to colgan/mesaba since they wont even be flying for delta anymore if they go there. It will be easier for the flow to end then to keep it going.

 

Yes but it is a little more complicated than that. It isn't all about you/me/us. There are Delta scope implications. I'm sure Delta wants it gone and yes it might be difficult and confusing for you and your company to work out. However I do not think the Delta pilots are going to give up a negotiated benefit that helps to prevent furloughs of their pilots for the sole reason that it is easier for your company. In the end it is a Delta and Delta MEC issue, you and your company have very little (if any) say in the issue at this point in time.