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08-21-2010 | 07:33 AM

#101

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Originally Posted by Captain Tony

And speaking of Vegas, my sources tell me a sit down was had yesterday between the ALPA chairmen, Brad Holt, and Jerry Atkin in LAS to discuss this issue.

What would happen if Jerry threw in the towel and agreed to a three way, but with concessions in return? Hmmm.

According to the XJT MEC this is a fact! No rumors yet on what was said???

08-21-2010 | 08:31 AM

#102

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Originally Posted by Slaphappy

I asked you before when skywest whipsawed anyone and you have yet to answer just the usual alpo talking points. Yet asa has grown more since the buyout than skywest has.

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Originally Posted by SuperPilotJesse

Dang, everyone has pointed out several examples and you still don't
Understand that Skywest has, indeed, whipsawed ASA v Skywest?
Maybe you should learn a little history
Before you talk of things you know nothing about.

De-Nile ain't just a river in Eygpt. Somebody is continually getting proved wrong, but can't admit he's wrong.

Facts are facts Slaphappy.

08-21-2010 | 08:33 AM

#103

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Originally Posted by Captain Tony

ALPA's rules prohibit using union attorneys or union funds for a merger. Too easy for the union to get sued if you don't like the result. If you want a lawyer, you have to hire one and pass an assessment among your pilot group to pay for it.

ASA MEC has retained the firm that handled the NWA merger for Delta.

I know that ALPA legal is reviewing our contract language and the Merger Agreement so they can give their opinion to the XJT MEC. I also know that the XJT MEC has retained a legal firm from DC. There is money in the SMRA account so I hope they use that before assessing the pilots.

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Originally Posted by Captain Tony

If he wants concessions, PBS, etc, fine. That all has to be negotiated for in a joint contract anyways. That is where those deals should be made.

09-10-2010 | 09:22 AM

#104

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What uniforms should the new ASA/XJT wear? I think we should go with the gold and black.

09-10-2010 | 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BeastFromDaEast

What uniforms should the new ASA/XJT wear? I think we should go with the gold and black.

I don't care as long as we don't get those gay embroidered wings...

09-11-2010 | 11:32 AM

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Under the RLA management can not impose a union on a labor group. Jerry will let it happen if and when it does.

09-11-2010 | 12:18 PM

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Under the RLA management can not impose a union on a labor group. Jerry will let it happen if and when it does.

Getting pretty sick of everyone putting Jerry up on a pedestal.

09-11-2010 | 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeMerchant

I don't care as long as we don't get those gay embroidered wings...

seriously... it screams im too lazy to put on real metal wings.

09-12-2010 | 06:27 PM

#109

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Originally Posted by Slaphappy

I asked you before when skywest whipsawed anyone and you have yet to answer just the usual alpo talking points. Yet asa has grown more since the buyout than skywest has.

So you're saying that Inc hasn't walked our new HC plan over to ASA stating that if they don't do the same they're cost will be to high to compete? Or how about some of our 900's being painted with ASA on the side during their 07 negotiations and then repaint with SKW and shipped off to ATL with SKW pilots right after they closed down ASA in SLC? Or how about during our last Pay Package vote back in 07 when they told us our wages needed to lower than ASA in order to maintain a competitive advantage over them, then they explained that if our #’s were 2% lower than ASA’s they were actually the same cause we don’t pay dues? Just to name a few…….but since we’re not in the “know” then we don’t know how much more has occurred behind closed doors.

Remember that if one point is used against the other no matter how large or small, they are attempting a whipsaw. It has happened and it will happen again.