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Old 08-18-2010 | 11:52 AM
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May take a few years but upgrading is going to matter less and less in the future anyway. Good to have it, but not a show-stopper if you don't. Too much may even hurt your chances if you want to go to a major in the future. They don't want new FOs who think they know how to be a captain better than the captain.

We see it already. Delta is taking more FO's from SkyWest than Captains..............

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Old 08-18-2010 | 04:27 PM
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Yes. I firmly believe it's the only fair way for a regional merger. And there isn't a whole lot of precedent for a regional merger of this size, now is there? The ALPA template isn't going to work this time.
What if we were merging with Comair or Eagle instead of Xjet?

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We see it already. Delta is taking more FO's from SkyWest than Captains..............
Are the FOs female?
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Old 08-18-2010 | 05:00 PM
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Seriously, I have NO idea what's so hard to understand;

Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Yes. I firmly believe it's the only fair way for a regional merger. And there isn't a whole lot of precedent for a regional merger of this size, now is there? The ALPA template isn't going to work this time.
If if comes down to it, and none of the three sides can agree to an integration, can you show us ANYWHERE in the McCaskill bond that requires a precedent?

That's a serious question, I haven't read the whole thing. Which is more than can be said for LOTS of other people discussing this topic.

Do you even know what the "ALPA template" consists of now that there's been changes?
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Old 08-19-2010 | 06:00 AM
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We see it already. Delta is taking more FO's from SkyWest than Captains..............
I know of at least three guys who were hired at Delta last month with less than 100 hrs PIC, new regime is looking at the total experience of the pilot.
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Old 08-19-2010 | 06:11 AM
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I know of at least three guys who were hired at Delta last month with less than 100 hrs PIC, new regime is looking at the total experience of the pilot.

So what did the experience?
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Old 08-19-2010 | 08:39 AM
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So what did the experience?
Ex-Military?
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Old 08-19-2010 | 08:41 AM
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The guy one number ahead of me at SkyWest went to Delta. No airline PIC, but Navy S3 pilot. That was 3 years ago.
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Old 08-19-2010 | 08:45 AM
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Ex-Military?
Yes, true, all three are Air Force Reserve heavy pilots, but had little if any AF PIC time. With four internal recs.
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Old 08-19-2010 | 09:43 AM
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Airlines also know that they can trap a pilot with no PIC in today's market. I know several furloughed pilots with little or no turbine PIC who can't get an interview at many places because of that requirement. Not to say Delta is doing this, but they may. Endless reserve and a commute attached to it for the new hires? (just speculating, but it appears that way.) Saves on training if your bottom guy catching all the junior flak doesn't have the option to go somewhere else. Just a thought. No Delta bashing here. I'd fly for them. Just my take on their hiring pilots without the vaunted PIC everyone else requires.
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Old 08-19-2010 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by C5Pilot
Yes, true, all three are Air Force Reserve heavy pilots, but had little if any AF PIC time. With four internal recs.
That would explain it. What a deal for those guys, government pension and now a job at Delta. Only doing the regional dance for a couple of years. I am jealous.
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