Colgan uniform questions
12-17-2010 | 06:07 AM
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Thank you for your concern, but you do not know what my financial situation is.
I was under the impression that it is unacceptable to wear anything other than the approved uniform. That is why I asked the question.
So is it acceptable to wear something beyond the approved list for winter walk arounds? I would rather not have to buy something if I do not have to.
Also, how about the pants? Is everyone just buying from M&H?
I was under the impression that it is unacceptable to wear anything other than the approved uniform. That is why I asked the question.
So is it acceptable to wear something beyond the approved list for winter walk arounds? I would rather not have to buy something if I do not have to.
Also, how about the pants? Is everyone just buying from M&H?
Oh yea, I forgot you need a nice backpack also and a spikey hair doo to go with the Ray Bans.
12-17-2010 | 12:05 PM
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Colgan doesn't have a uniform standard. in any given crew you'll see one guy with a trench no hat, one guy with leather and a hat, on FA with black kicks and a blazer and one with dockers (blue doesn't match at all on dockers) and a vest.
We look like shi* plain and simple. But this company has no class or standards so it reflects in the way we look in the terminal.
Wearing the uniform well is important in my opinion. How we look, speak and act are half of the product as far as the traveling public are concerned. We really need to get fitted for good uniforms and have some enforcement of the standard. Some leather jackets look great some look like complete crap. Many pilots can't seem to tell the difference. Many pilots do not dry clean their pants and it shows. It looks like amateur flight instructor hour. (not their fault entirely as it can get expensive and they pay us so little, but the result is the same none the less). Pilots don't replace their shirts often enough or scrub the collars resulting in ring around the collar and ratty looking shirts. Our blues don't match between the pants, coat, hat and tie which sometimes is very obvious and looks horrible.
I hope when the merger is said and done, we get new uniforms.
We look like shi* plain and simple. But this company has no class or standards so it reflects in the way we look in the terminal.
Wearing the uniform well is important in my opinion. How we look, speak and act are half of the product as far as the traveling public are concerned. We really need to get fitted for good uniforms and have some enforcement of the standard. Some leather jackets look great some look like complete crap. Many pilots can't seem to tell the difference. Many pilots do not dry clean their pants and it shows. It looks like amateur flight instructor hour. (not their fault entirely as it can get expensive and they pay us so little, but the result is the same none the less). Pilots don't replace their shirts often enough or scrub the collars resulting in ring around the collar and ratty looking shirts. Our blues don't match between the pants, coat, hat and tie which sometimes is very obvious and looks horrible.
I hope when the merger is said and done, we get new uniforms.
We are forced to buy overpriced garbage from a crappy company who doesn't even send a tailor out to measure us..... and that is MY fault?
Take my coat (please): lining seam ripped in one month, the stripes are two different colors, and the buttons are not aligned with the holes.
12-17-2010 | 04:32 PM
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Nice. Someone asks a question specifically about staying within standards and you come back with that. Instead of a reply like that, why not be helpful? Surely everything you own didn't come from M&H.
12-18-2010 | 06:02 AM
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I'm just tired of PROFESSIONAL pilots that don't know how to dress themselves for display in public. Every uniform I owned did come from the designated vendor and was worn in accordance with the FOM guidelines to inclued the POS hat. I did have the pants hemmed and fitted appropriately and even paid to have the jacket fitted so it looked professional. If the lining ripped I had it repaired.
I've had my last uniform hanging in the closet for over two years now because we still have people in this industry willing to work for crappy wages and not willing to wear the company specified uniform which reflects a total lack of discipline, and professionalism.
When one of us looks unprofessional it leaves an impression in the passengers minds that lasts. When passengers get the impression that we are juveniles, that we can't even dress professionally then they have no reason to expect us to be compensated professionally.
In my opinion the bottom line is if you can't have a uniform fitted and wear it properly then perhaps you shouldn't be a professional pilot, or perhaps your not paid enough to be a professional pilot which is the real problem. When you choose to disregard the FOM in something so simple as uniform wear it makes me wonder what other parts of the FOM are you willing to disregard so you can play pilot for shltty wages.
If you have a uniform question at your airline, find the most professional looking pilot at your company and ask him how he got his uniform to look so good. There's your helpful uniform advice. If the entire pilot group doesn't look professional then the public impression of your pilot group will be that they are all unprofessional which in turn reflects on all of us in the professional pilot group inderectly.
Yes I am getting cranky when I watch pilots that can't dress themselves professionally flying 70 seat aircraft with my paint while I sit and wait for recall. I'm going to go crawl back in the hole where I live now. Have a nice career, err I mean job.
12-18-2010 | 06:32 AM
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