Originally Posted by Kellwolf

It'll all come down to the fine print and wording in the contract. God knows, that's what the 99 agreement is built on. Loopholes left and right, and scheduling will use every last one of them. Got junior manned down to 8 days off and want to use your 2 comp days within the first 6 days of the month? Tough. They'll get denied due to "interface," even though that went away when paper bidding went away. No limit on the number of ready reserves in a month, so you could actually be escalated every damn day if they wanted to. Or, like one poor soul actually got, awarded 21 days of ready reserve from PBS. Fatigue and sick policies aren't in the fine print, so they can change at the whim of the company.

The main problem I had with TA1 was the lack of loopholes being sewn up with the reserve language. Too many "to the extent possible" or "to the best of the company's ability" clauses still there. Might as well translate those as "no."

With the current negotiations, I'm willing to let it take its course, read the contract from a DW perspective (trying to find any loophole they can to get what they need) and vote accordingly.....assuming we ever see anything to vote on.

Originally Posted by JetBlast77

and you guys are trying to tell me that all regionals are the same? Give me a break man.

Originally Posted by JetBlast77

Never thought I was better than anyone, I still stand behind the fact that every pilot that goes to places like Colgan to work are further contributing to the downfall of this industry. You can flame me all day long on that one folks. Accepting 18K per year to fly a 76 seat aircraft is absolutly ridiculous.

Originally Posted by JetBlast77

It is people like you who don't understand and this is why places like Colgan stay in business. If you want to make a career in this industry you have a responsibility to turn down companies like this and wait until you can get into one of the few companies that are striving for something better. The more pilots like you who will take these jobs just to get out of instructing, the more companies will continue to lower wages because they know people will accept it. Don't you want a higher paying mainline job to be available for you in the future? What you guys don't understand is if you keep accepting these wages you are KILLING the career progression for yourself and all of us. Sure, you might make it to a major in 3-5 years flying a "larger" aircraft. But your pay will be $40/hour instead of $70-80. You'll be making 40K a year to fly an E-190 or a Q1000 with a hundred seats.

You guys that haven't made it to the industry just don't understand this. You don't understand that you are BETTER OFF instructing for 20K a year and are actually risking your life LESS than if you take a job at places like colgan. At least as a CFI you're home every night and you're actually contributing to the knowledge of other perspective students. Working at colgan, you'll take home 11K a year flying aircraft that are maintained so poorly that if you actually knew what went on you'd be horrified. Not to mention you'll be home 6-8 days a month depending on if you're commuting or not, making LESS than your CFI salary! These companies will NEVER go away unless people start standing up and saying NO. I was hired at colgan but turned it down, and I waited until I could go somewhere that would at least pay/treat me what I was worth. The choice is yours my friend. I GUARENTEE you will wake up one day in the near future and deeply regret your decision to go there once you realize what you've gotten into. Keep the flames coming, I only speak the truth.

Originally Posted by JetBlast77

It continues to amaze me the amount of siht people are willing to go through to fly airplanes. Junior man's, having to "check out", airport ready for more than 4 hours, less than 12 days off a month, not to mention pay.....this industry makes me sick almost as much as the people who are willing to put up with this crap.