I and many others on here have asked this very question many times. I keep hearing support, support, support, but support was never mentioned in any of our MEC e-mails. It was timing because of the fact progress was still being made. Then there are the really pessimistic ones that say its the same as it has been for the last 6 years and we should know better and trust them to know that we are not going to get anytime soon because that's the games Pinnacle management plays. Many don't want to accept that their section six negotiations was paused in the hopes that we can achieve a joint contract and group the last 70+ days in with their last 6 years. But the best one I have read on here, and I suspect this may be the view of many, is that since we were bought by Pinnacle Corp. we should let them lead the way, even though 2/3 say lets hold off on picketing. That may explain the lack of support for the majority and the bullting attempts.

 

Our Section 6 negotiations weren't halted for this. We were on ice with the NMB. Colgan, to my understanding, just had management stop negotiating period because (at the time) it was gonna be two airlines with two contract, Colgan was gonna get Mesaba's contract per XJ's scope, so why waste the manpower? I don't think 9E's MEC should lead the way any more than XJ's or 9L's. Honestly, with the combined MEC, I think it should be all new blood with no prior loyalties to any of the groups.

Those of us that are talking about this being the same old thing are just as frustrated by guys that keep saying "this is different" or "Pinnacle needs this" over and over as those guys are of hearing from us the same things over and over again about our negotiations. Sure, things move quickly until you get to the big ticket items. That's when, historically, 9E has failed to seal the deal. It's a lot like watching a team make it to the Super Bowl 4 years in a row and never win. Although, this time, for some reason, they're gonna win. Really. It's gonna happen. If things move quickly this week, awesome. As of right now, we are where we have been for a LOOOONG time. 9E pilots are jaded, tired and underimpressed. It's not that we're jealous of the pace of the JCBA, it's that we're just now getting to the items that never get done anyway. Once those things start getting done, a LOT of 9E guys (myself included) will change their tune.

 

Nice reply, thank-you

 

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You are missing the most important point of all:

The Mesaba and Colgan MECs sent a message that there is no unity in the pilot group directly to management and in so doing have effectively shot themselves in the foot.

Stupid, stupid short-sighted bickering children.

 

No you are missing the point, you are blind to the event that happened just prior to that, but you refuse to hear anything about that. It was the Pinnacle MEC that decided to break ranks and do their own thing. Anyway, I'm sure management is well versed to your union employee relations with that shake up you had several months back. They are probably looking forward to some sensable leadership in the future

 

I blame it on the wreckless & rougue 9E MEC for going solo on this one despite being told from ALPA National & DALAP NOT to picket. Way to go 9E.

 

you don't have a dog in this fight, go rock your gold buttoned double breasted jacket and hat and go sit in a corner, the only people more arrogant than XJ right now is Daddy Delta's soldier boys

 

The same DALPA that sold scope down the river, buddy. lol, enjoy your 7ER until DALPA sells scope again and (unfortunately) regionals get something bigger...

 

Are you a national rep? Its actually kind of nice to see some stones from somebody. Where did National tell 9E not to picket? I really don't know, can you show me?

 

Myself included, well said there. I may have come across as too outspoken here, but this whole process has been a huge bummer. As a 9E pilot what gives me any glimmer of hope that something will get done? Like Kell said, this is where the wall drops. If it gets done, great!! I think the reason 9E guys are saying what they are is because some XJ guys are coming in here poking the bear. Its uncalled for and there is nothing y'all will be able to say to change our minds at this point in time. The cheap shots and call outs are only going to add to the frustration.