View Poll Results: I will vote... (XJ/9E/9L pilots only, please)
For the TA
95
66.43%
Against the TA
35
24.48%
I will not vote
4
2.80%
Undecided
9
6.29%
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December 9E/XJ/9L TA Poll
12-20-2010 | 09:12 PM
#3
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2008
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Looks a lot like what XJ already had, but there might still be enough improvement to vote for it.... go look at the table of who's getting direct rate increases though.. essentially 4 of the six categories of Mesaba pilots aren't getting much. The XJ jet Fo's get a rate increase, everyone else not alot. Huge raises for 9E and 9L, probably the best we'll do. Take it and run. Decent but hardly "industry leading"
12-20-2010 | 09:16 PM
#4
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,499
Likes: 0
First impression is, I love it, but I think CJC can get better pay. fix that and it would be a resounding he!! yes. I think it could get worked out. Therefore at first impression I vote NO.
Unfortunately I'm sure the smart people at PNCL figured out how to get 50.1% of the vote here.
Unfortunately I'm sure the smart people at PNCL figured out how to get 50.1% of the vote here.
12-20-2010 | 09:27 PM
#6
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 888
Likes: 0
Maybe the vacation is better for XJ than it was, and perhaps the PBS is too (though I'm always skeptical of that voodoo) but otherwise looks alot like business as usual for XJ. Basically this IS everyone's section 6.... Unfortunately there's nothing that screams veto me... and for lack of horribly bad things, I would have to take it. (That's how low the bar is set on this one)
12-20-2010 | 09:47 PM
#8
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Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,808
Likes: 27
From: 330 B
I like the language better than the payrates themselves especially the B scale on the saab for the colgan pilots. That definitely needs to be changed. At XJ we knew we weren't going to get a windfall, but what this does is go a long way to remove two inferior contracts and working conditions (9E & 9L) from the industry. I hope ASA/XJT are taking notes and do better than we did.
Last edited by Tinpusher007; 12-20-2010 at 10:03 PM.
12-20-2010 | 10:22 PM
#9
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 711
Likes: 0
Any of you guys know why there is a difference between the "grandfathered" turboprop rates vs the non-grandfathered, and what does it even mean in the first place? There is a substantial difference for 2nd year pay between both, for example.
12-20-2010 | 10:23 PM
#10
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Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 713
Likes: 9
lots of good stuff, but i dont think the saab pay scales should be split, nor should 50 seat jet be more then 74 seat props, lots more q400s on the way, no new saabs on the way... and i think we can do better on that part.
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