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05-07-2011 | 03:55 PM

#471

Lone Palm

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Fighting is pointless, resistance is futile, Jimmy Buffett will live forever.....

05-07-2011 | 04:17 PM

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FlyJSH

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Originally Posted by higney85

I would say otherwise if they are professionals. I have flown with many of the XJ furloughs over at 9E and have not run across a single one that brings any type of negative attitude. Even when discussing Sli.... If both guys are professional, they will get along just fine. If 1 of the two has a bad attitude it will be "one of those trips". If both are unprofessional, both will most likely be getting a call from Pro Standards or possibly a carpet dance (if it is a serious issue).

If more PICs would start acting like old school Captains and buy the first round, much disgruntlement would be avoided.

05-07-2011 | 04:21 PM

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AxialFlow

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We understand as an ALPA rep it is your duty to push the professionalism card, regardless of pilot nature. ALPA probably hoped USAir East and West pilots would be professionals, as well.

05-07-2011 | 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AxialFlow

We understand as an ALPA rep it is your duty to push the professionalism card, regardless of pilot nature. ALPA probably hoped USAir East and West pilots would be professionals, as well.

I'm no longer a rep... just a line pilot and dues paying alpa member.

05-07-2011 | 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by N261ND

If I'm not mistaken, eventually you will be able to bid to ANY base & aircraft, so Mesaba and Colgan growth has not come at the expense of Pinnacle pilots.

Let's not forget that 17 -200s were transferred from 9E to XJ in 2007 because 9E pilots refused to sign the company's "last, best offer."

Rather than "lowering the bar" we gave up 17 planes, meaning there are now 100 more seniority numbers at XJ than 9E because 9E pilots refused to give in and sign a bad contract, even if it meant another airline growing at our expense.

05-07-2011 | 06:22 PM

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Give it a rest, this is pointless and accomplishes nothing.

05-07-2011 | 06:24 PM

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Rather than "lowering the bar" we gave up 17 planes, meaning there are now 100 more seniority numbers at XJ than 9E because 9E pilots refused to give in and sign a bad contract, even if it meant another airline growing at our expense.

Then we raised your bar when you got on average a 17-19% pay raise and the Colgan guys got 27%+ with the new JCBA...oh and uh XJ...we averaged at 4%...who cares anyway, no one group is better than the other, there were benefits from all sides and if anyone on anyside thinks thats not the case, then you got issues...I'm gunna keep enjoying what I do for a living, because at the end of the day, I have a job...and I get paid to do what I love to do...

Seriously... who cares? this is one big ****ing match, people need to realize this is out of our hands and just get on with life, I'm sure Mr. Bloch already knows what he is going to do...let him make his decision and move on with it...