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Originally Posted by PapaMike
(Post 919297)
Have you seen the pay structure? That is the very defination of horribly bad.
Absolute no vote here. It was a terrible idea to pay the Q at 50 seat rates back when that was being passed around as what was going to happen and to actually go several dollars an hour less is embarrassing. Every pilot should vote no to a 74 seat airplane getting 40 seat pay. |
I don't work at Pinnacle, but I voted!
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Originally Posted by dingo222
(Post 919361)
agreed, but it has never happened at any level. The q rates in this TA will equal 50 seat rates at year 5. Hopefully in the next contract we can reverse the trend and have the q rates above the 50 seat rate.
All we can plan on is what we get RIGHT now...a split rate on the SAABS and Q making less than a 50 seater? NO!!! |
9e and XJ folks, don't get too concerned about what the 9L people say. Even if every Colgan pilot votes "no", it will only take about 62% of each of your groups to ratify.
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Seats x Range = Rate.
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Originally Posted by AxialFlow
(Post 919463)
We can't plan on having a "next time" (ask the 9E pilots about "the next time")
All we can plan on is what we get RIGHT now...a split rate on the SAABS and Q making less than a 50 seater? NO!!! I don't agree with the difference in payrates. However the only posts I've seen from you have been militant, and now that there is a TA in place you are saying it's not good enough, so forgive me if I don't hold much water to your opinion of the TA in front of us Axial. |
I am a Colgan pilot and as of right now based on the information we have I am voting yes. I do not agree with the split saab rate but that is only a temporary problem.
It was explained to me that when a granfathered Saab FO upgrades he will go under the normal captain rate. Thus eventually the FO's will upgrade and there will be no more grandfathered FO's. Grandfathered CA's will remain but one would assume eventually the grandfathered CA's would want to move to a better paying aircraft or perhaps even get a job at a better airline... The Q rates are acceptable to me. Yes I wish they paid more than the 50 seat jet however it is a HUGE improvement over what we have now. Any Colgan pilot that votes no on this is totally off the rocker... |
You can't rationalize with an entitlement brat.
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Haven't had the chance to read through the summary, can someone tell me if they have included COLA?? This is one of the most important things I will be looking for, I do not want history repeating itself.
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Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL
(Post 919510)
Haven't had the chance to read through the summary, can someone tell me if they have included COLA?? This is one of the most important things I will be looking for, I do not want history repeating itself.
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