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So....anybody wanna throw this thing up on the interwebs for us all to see?
I'd be happy to put it on my Mediafire account if somebody would email it to me... |
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 919546)
I'm not saying vote no; I don't work for any of the 3 airlines...or any airline, for that matter.
But when you have pilots saying "9e and XJ folks, don't get too concerned about what the 9L people say. Even if every Colgan pilot votes "no", it will only take about 62% of each of your groups to ratify" then you've got problems in your house - especially before SLI, regardless of the financial gains in the contract. Even an idiot should be able to see the Ford & Harrison touch on this agreement... My Prediction is this passes by at least 80%. |
Originally Posted by flyguyniner11
(Post 919522)
COLA is a Cost of Living Adjustment....its a precantage pay increase for people who are with the company longer than there are payrates for.... I think this TA goes to 18 yrs service so if your 20 yrs you would have a percantage increase every year.
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
(Post 919546)
I'm not saying vote no; I don't work for any of the 3 airlines...or any airline, for that matter.
But when you have pilots saying "9e and XJ folks, don't get too concerned about what the 9L people say. Even if every Colgan pilot votes "no", it will only take about 62% of each of your groups to ratify" then you've got problems in your house - especially before SLI, regardless of the financial gains in the contract. Even an idiot should be able to see the Ford & Harrison touch on this agreement... 1 pilot said that and he doesn't even work for Colsabacle. So the problems aren't in our house. they are the peeping toms looking in our window... |
Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 919582)
actually everybody gets one. it is the raise that everybody gets on dec 1 (assuming this TA passes). What people want to see though is COLA continued after the 5 year duration of the contract so that if negotiations for the next contract are drug out another 5 years you will at least be getting a raise every year. Penalize the company for dragging their feet...
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Honestly, I see the split pay scales as being short sighted on the part of management as they will just see a huge increase in training costs which will offset alot of what they get in the split scale. Every pilot at 9L will jump ship to 9E as soon as possible displacing current 9E pilots to reserve lines for a very long time. Based on a fair and equitable sli, there will be several senior saab pilots looking for a big pay raise. I see this really screwing fo's at all three companies (yes, you will upgrade but you'll not get paid very well for a long time).
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Originally Posted by flyingreasemnky
(Post 919601)
Honestly, I see the split pay scales as being short sighted on the part of management as they will just see a huge increase in training costs which will offset alot of what they get in the split scale. Every pilot at 9L will jump ship to 9E as soon as possible displacing current 9E pilots to reserve lines for a very long time. Based on a fair and equitable sli, there will be several senior saab pilots looking for a big pay raise. I see this really screwing fo's at all three companies (yes, you will upgrade but you'll not get paid very well for a long time).
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Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 919584)
1 pilot said that and he doesn't even work for Colsabacle. So the problems aren't in our house. they are the peeping toms looking in our window...
Ahem, ahem.....(cough, cough)....it's not Colsabacle......It's Pinnacolaba |
if you like Pinnacolabas.......i happen to like Colsabacles. On the rocks.
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Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL
(Post 919564)
My Predication... |
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