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higney85 12-24-2010 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by Kellwolf (Post 920795)
Eh, true. I knew there was a call today, so I figured I'd just ask JA about it. Problem solved.

Now....about that transparency on the extensions/JMs...... :)

There will be some openings on a scheduling committee to oversee all of that. I have a feeling it will be made up of MEM guys that live in base so they can actually go to the SOC and work on it when there are issues. For the first time the company is granting access to the association to monitor the scheduling. I have personally found that when we have access to everything and have clear language that the company doesn't fight, but they will complain. It's a great stride in the right direction.

iahflyr 12-24-2010 08:16 AM

Rather than focus on the negatives, can someone post the positives of this TA?

Kellwolf 12-24-2010 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by higney85 (Post 920865)
There will be some openings on a scheduling committee to oversee all of that. I have a feeling it will be made up of MEM guys that live in base so they can actually go to the SOC and work on it when there are issues.


Sold. :)



Originally Posted by iahflyr
Rather than focus on the negatives, can someone post the positives of this TA?

Honestly, for the first time for me, the list of negatives is SIGNIFICANTLY shorter than the list of positives. 4 hour min day, reserve escalation limits, 11 days off, and a few other kickers would have made my current month a LOT better than it is right now....

Washout 12-24-2010 11:01 AM

This TA is a joke, get what you deserve

dingo222 12-24-2010 11:55 AM

Just curious, what's the doh for 200 and 900 captains at mesaba and pncl? I think we have some 08 guys upgrading on the Saab and Q on this end

higney85 12-24-2010 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by dingo222 (Post 920973)
Just curious, what's the doh for 200 and 900 captains at mesaba and pncl? I think we have some 08 guys upgrading on the Saab and Q on this end

Pncl..-200 mid 06, -900 mid/early 06.

RightSide 12-24-2010 01:44 PM

Mesaba junior 200 is feb 05. 900 is apr 07. Saab is may 07

Bartok 12-24-2010 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by RightSide (Post 920987)
Mesaba junior 200 is feb 05. 900 is apr 07. Saab is may 07

Will change significantly due to senior saab captains being displaced.

Bartok 12-24-2010 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Washout (Post 920955)
This TA is a joke, get what you deserve

Alright, I'll bite "flame-daddy". ASA right?

Will someone from ASA please educate us poor peons on what your golden contract contains so that we can strive to be as high and mighty as the ones called "assey"?


Here I'll help you out:

Your payrates are better, not extremely better but better.

What else beyond that?

Better scope protections than this TA?

More than 11 days off a month? (not bragging just asking)

Block or better with leg by leg guarantees?

4 hour min day?

A whole host of scheduling provisions that force the company to staff accordingly and not use junior manning as a staffing model?

Pilots creating the pairings to be put into PBS?

Is your 401k matching that superior?

Health insurance cheaper and more coverage?


Please, please tell me what I need to be striving for since it's what you already have.

BoilerUP 12-24-2010 05:21 PM

Current Contract ASAContract


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