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mooney 05-19-2011 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 995662)
1700 on Friday, that would be last minute and may very well be the case.

kinda ironic it's like how they also fire people at 1700 on a friday.....not a good sign.....;). Guess he kknows more people than usual are getting screwed and he wants bo be as far away from the office as possible when it hits the fan.....

edit...props to FlyJSH i missed your post...

belliott 05-19-2011 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 995700)
I was thinking the same thing. Something along the lines of this...

"Here's your list, hope you like it. Gotta go, catching a flight to West Palm for the week."

Thats all fine except if he ends up riding on a XJ or 9E jet down there... wouldn't that be interesting...

CAPTAINPCL 05-19-2011 07:32 AM

Has anyone else heard that Bloch is not going to release the actual SLI, just the methodology used to get it, then the list will be released later this summer??

usmc-sgt 05-19-2011 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL (Post 995713)
Has anyone else heard that Bloch is not going to release the actual SLI, just the methodology used to get it, then the list will be released later this summer??

If this were the case, given a methodology it would not take months to construct a list.

PinnacleFO 05-19-2011 08:26 AM

I think we should all get ourselves ready for a message like this: Today we received the SLI award. It is currently being reviewed by the MEC then we will pass it out to all the committees. It will not be released to the pilot groups until sometime next week.
Then we can all be one happy family or go to court and listen to all the appeals!!!!

ShyGuy 05-19-2011 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by PinnacleFO (Post 995725)
I think we should all get ourselves ready for a message like this: Today we received the SLI award. It is currently being reviewed by the MEC then we will pass it out to all the committees. It will not be released to the pilot groups until sometime next week.
Then we can all be one happy family or go to court and listen to all the appeals!!!!

Nah... the Colgan merger comittee will release it. Just as they released the final stands for all 3 airlines, despite Bloch advising not to. They'll play themselves off as victims again, the kid who cries mommy! mommy!

usmc-sgt 05-19-2011 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 995810)
Nah... the Colgan merger comittee will release it. Just as they released the final stands for all 3 airlines, despite Bloch advising not to. They'll play themselves off as victims again, the kid who cries mommy! mommy!

That would be devastating if Colgans merger committee shared information with their pilot group.

We can all hope that is not the case.

gonyon 05-19-2011 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 995810)
Nah... the Colgan merger comittee will release it. Just as they released the final stands for all 3 airlines, despite Bloch advising not to. They'll play themselves off as victims again, the kid who cries mommy! mommy!

Na, the CJC MEC will release it as soon as it is verified for accuracy. They will do this because they are here for the pilot group and run a transparent operation.

PS.Bloch did not advise against it. twisted words.

ShyGuy 05-19-2011 12:07 PM


PS.Bloch did not advise against it. twisted words.
He did advise it. How would you know it was "twisted words." Are you one of the 3 Colgan SLI members who were physically there, negotiating? I don't think so. Pinnacle released an internal memo on May 11, stating:

"This morning all 3 committee chairman participated in a conference call. All 3 mutually agreed that further negotiations would not elicit a negotiated agreement.

During the conference call, the Pinnacle Merger Committee Chairman emphasized the importance of moving forward and to integrate the strengths of our pilot groups so we can capture our synergies.

This afternoon we learned of the Colgan Merger Committee’s release of final positions to its pilot groups. This release countered the arbitrator’s final remarks during the hearing on March 31, 2011 "

************************************************** ***

Face it, Colgan released it just to play the victim card, and TONS of anti-Pinnacle threads started all over the internet, flightinfo, APC, ALPA forums, etc. The anti-Pinnacle sentiment does nothing to help unity. Also, Colgan only released the final stand views, not the negotiating viewpoints. And, they tried to make THEIR viewpoint sound the most "fair" , despite the fact that everyone knows it would screw over XJ and 9E guys when 2-3 year Colgan FOs start getting 4-6 year seniority equiavalent at 9E/XJ. IMO, that is the biggest windfall. At least the Pinnacle viewpoint, the category/class, Jet CA, Jet FO, Turboprop CA, Turboprop FO, has some industry merit based on previous arbitrator awards.

Colgan can cry all it wants, and yet again, I forecast that Colgan will be the first to release it, and most likely in a victim card.

mikeypat15 05-19-2011 12:28 PM

So quick question, interviewed with Mesaba on Tuesday, got a conditional offer. Received an official offer today for June 6th class date. Is my hire date Tuesday, Today, or June 6th. And does it really mean anything with the current arbitration and SLI?


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