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Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 955988)

Let's not forget the 120 most undesirable airframes in the world that Pinnacle brings, everyone knows those are going away as soon as they can get rid of them. Not to mention performance numbers allowing the parent airline legally able to withdraw all flying. If Pinnacle would have continued on the path they were going then no one there would have a job, that doesn't bode well for your career expectations by the definition you set.

Actually, thanks to NWA, there was a contract for the 50 seaters until 2017. I've seen the performance numbers tied to the contract, too. We would have had to work really hard to get bellow those numbers set. The numbers for bonus money were what we were missing. Not hitting the minimums set forth in the ASA with NWA wasn't really an issue. Worst case scenario: lose 16 CRJ-900s since the Delta terms were more strict. Even then, Delta wouldn't "take it back." They'd just shift it to another regional.

I like the mentality of mainline flying everything they sell tickets for, don't get me wrong. I think that's how it really should be. However, pricing yourself out while regionals like Mesa, Gulfstream, and (to some extent) Republic are out there are just gonna get you unemployed. Unless ALL regionals get on the same page, we'd just wind up like Comair or ExpressJet while Mesa rises from the ashes.

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Originally Posted by ebl14 (Post 955680)

I think you are confused about the term "career expectations" when applied to a merger. The term refers to what is likely to happen to an employee group if they had continued on alone or status quo. In this case, Colgan would have never had the cash to buy Q400s and double the size of thier operation. Pre-purchase a Colgan first officer would have to wait for Captains to leave to greener partures before they would get a chance at moving up and getting an upgrade, the same goes for Pinnacle. At Mesaba, Delta was already parking the Saabs and Mesaba was preparing for another round of massive furloughs. Had is not been for the purchase and merger with Colgan the expectation for a Mesaba pilot was furlough for the bottom 40-50%, downgrade for the 25-50% pilots and decreased QOL for the top 25%.

Whatever, you act like you have a crystal ball, or some other special gift that allows you to predict the future. What you say here is the worst case scenario. It could have easily been Mesaba getting the 12 700s rather than Compass getting 12 E170s. The fact is, we don't know what would have happened if we would have remained separate companies, but all three are much better as one. Stop acting like Pinnacle is our savior