Not true mooney, I did want them to integrate the seniority lists, but I didn't feel any entitlement because I work for XJ, only that my DOH was used as the more weighted factor in SLI.

Nothing has changed.

Out of curiosity, what would your relative senority at xj be if you subtracted all saab positions?

Less than it is.

Let me ask you a question, 9E I presume, are you in the top 25 - 30% at 9E?

Because straight DOH helps everyone at 9E below that.

That may be true, it is also probably true that doh will hurt the lower 50% of mesabas pilots. So are you suggesting, the junior 9e guys get together with the senior xj guys and play "let's ****** our buddies"? I just thought a some thought should be given to the fact that pre-purchase xj was going to furlough roughly half the list. The same consideration should be given to the fact that Colgan would never have the growth from the q400s if they had not been aquired and funded by Pinnacle. As long as those two factors weigh in to the sli I will think the outcome is "fair".

And consideration should be given to that fact that Pinnacle pilots own nothing, Pinnacle Holdings owns all 3 of us, Pinnacle airlines purchased nothing.

Your argument holds as much weight as the fact that XJ negotiators got this deal done for 9E.

And I'm not saying screw anyone, I just think straight DOH is the fairest method to most pilots.

Just so you know, Pinnacle Corp didn't even exist until after Colgan was purchased by Pinnacle Airlines Inc...

Doesn't DL still owns Mesaba's 76 seaters? That is why the price was a "steal"

I know, I just think this "ownage" argument is funny.

We're all "owned".

Just pawns in someone elses game.

Exactly!

I find it so funny that people always spout off against management until they get in these little poop throwing contests. Then, all of a sudden it is 'we' bought you and 'we' did this or that. We are all just cogs in a wheel, if one of us falls off there are 8,000 more in a spare parts box to take our place, at a cheaper rate! All we can do is operate the aircraft safely, go home and vote on things with our conscience. I sleep well at night, do you?

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