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ebl14 02-26-2011 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 954395)
And consideration should be given to that fact that Pinnacle pilots own nothing, Pinnacle Holdings owns all 3 of us, Pinnacle airlines purchased nothing.

Your argument holds as much weight as the fact that XJ negotiators got this deal done for 9E.

And I'm not saying screw anyone, I just think straight DOH is the fairest method to most pilots.

My argument has nothing to do with the fact that "we" bought xj. It has everything to do with the career expectations of all three groups pre-purchase.

gojo 02-26-2011 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by ebl14 (Post 954800)
My argument has nothing to do with the fact that "we" bought xj. It has everything to do with the career expectations of all three groups pre-purchase.

So things change, and they were out of our control. It appears that Pinnacle Corp. had this in the works for a while now and it may be one of, or even the main reason for the delay in the contract until after the purchase. The fact is that together all of our career expectations are better than if we remained separate. I don't understand your argument to throw so many under the bus when in fact you will probably gain if the SLI gets done fairly. It seams you have the all or nothing attitude, and tht's going to be a hard sell for the majority of the group

Kellwolf 02-26-2011 11:58 AM

Pinnacle Holdings existed on paper before the Colgan purchase, it just wasn't being used. The ORIGINAL plan was to start up a non-union carrier. However, the lock was put on that during contract negotiations, so they went out and BOUGHT one. I never could understand how they said they couldn't start a non-union carrier, but they could buy an existing one and keep it separate under a corporate umbrella.

As for the original question....go with the one that's going to give you the better QoL. ATL isn't going to be impossible to get. You'd probably have better luck getting ATL than MSP or MEM in the near future....

Flitestar 02-26-2011 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Kellwolf (Post 954840)
You'd probably have better luck getting ATL than MSP or MEM in the near future....

Yup.

Actually the last vacancy had some very junior FOs go to ATL, I think they prolly have been at the company a couple of months or so...

jayray2 02-26-2011 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by ebl14 (Post 954800)
My argument has nothing to do with the fact that "we" bought xj. It has everything to do with the career expectations of all three groups pre-purchase.

Who realistically has career expections at a regional? What kind of career expectations do you have? You can take your career expectations and your seniority and have a good career at Pinnacle. Enjoy your 10 days off as you go into your retirement.

Al Czervik 02-26-2011 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 954937)
Who realistically has career expections at a regional? What kind of career expectations do you have? You can take your career expectations and your seniority and have a good career at Pinnacle. Enjoy your 10 days off as you go into your retirement.

As bad as regonals are... There are few jobs where you can make 100K and have 1/2 the month off. Just sayin

mooney 02-26-2011 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by jayray2 (Post 954937)
Who realistically has career expections at a regional? What kind of career expectations do you have? You can take your career expectations and your seniority and have a good career at Pinnacle. Enjoy your 10 days off as you go into your retirement.

Sounds like you need some tutoring/practice with prefbid ;)

minimwage4 02-26-2011 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 954958)
As bad as regonals are... There are few jobs where you can make 100K and have 1/2 the month off. Just sayin

100k is after 15 to 20 years at a regional and maybe after 8 base changes...

1/2 the month off is more like half the month gone. Other jobs you're at home every day.

It is what it is but with the amount of time and investment that's required of this profession, and certainly sacrifice, you can certainly do a lot better in other fields. Just sayin

Al Czervik 02-27-2011 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by minimwage4 (Post 955059)
100k is after 15 to 20 years at a regional and maybe after 8 base changes...

1/2 the month off is more like half the month gone. Other jobs you're at home every day.

It is what it is but with the amount of time and investment that's required of this profession, and certainly sacrifice, you can certainly do a lot better in other fields. Just sayin

You are all true fools for staying in a job you dislike so much. Lifes too short... move on.

jmartin 02-27-2011 08:30 AM

which one is better qol-
 
I will live in my base, and can I get hired on the 900?


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