Ok tough guy with all your my regional is better than your talk. How are we bottom feeders, because we went without a contract for 10 years? Or is it because we seem to have a good relationship with our mainline partners, and continue to get awarded flying? Maybe you should educate yourself before you start spouting off like you know it all.

By the way I voted No and funny how the highest % of no votes came from PNCL guys. Explain that Einstein...

Are you Pinnacle Holdings?

If not you purchased squat.

I have my voting receipt if you would like to see it. At the onset I thought it was a decent deal and I still do. However it still doesn't pay me and my co-workers what I think we are worth. I realize the negotiators may have got every cent out of the company but it still doesn't amount to much. Paying a new-hire $23,000 to live in New York on reserve, with 11 days off and no vacation is a bad deal. How can the company and Union justify this? No trip and duty rigs? Why the disparity between Majors and Regionals in per diem? We are staying in the same hotels, buying the same food in the same airports. 11 days off is not enough if you want to keep in tact any semblance of a family, especially when you are forced to commute to New York. The one compelling reason to vote in favor was the prevention of whipsawing, that was the one great thing in this contract. I'm not in High School and far removed from college, I don't need to be cool, I just want to pay my mortgage, be with my family and retire before 65.

on top of that, you do realize Delta gave away XJ and Compass...82.5 million was a steal for 126 airplanes... especially considering...77 of them are 76 seaters

Your kidding with this right???

Technically, you were never without a contract

What do you mean?

listen guys, Saying my regional is better than your regional is like saying my poop stinks better than your poop. I was just hoping that the pilots of Pinnacle holdings could have voted in a contract that brought the bar up a little. How are we supposed to negotiate when they waive your new contract in our faces saying that this is the new standard. Your pay rates are slightly better than our SIX YEAR OLD CONCESSIONARY rates and most of the work rules are still below ours. I wanted you guys to truely get an industry leading contract because it's nothing but good for all of us. The other problem is that there is no education for those entering the regional life. Most think that all regionals are the same and that is simply not true. All regionals are bad for the profession as a whole but unfortunately at this point it is one of very few ways to get to a major. As long as guys that dont know any better keep showing up to the places with subpar contracts then the whipsawing will continue.

You need to read the contract we just voted in before talking because XJET nor ASA has work rules overall better, they both have things I like, and this contract we voted in has things you don't have also, we didn't raise the roof with this you are right, but we made the foundation alot stronger.

Let's see what ASA and XJET can get, you're up to bat now.

Now Bartok, you know that if some 21 year old 300 hour Big Sky punk was arguing with you back in the day of the sham bankrupcy/XJ Holdings formation/Big Sky purchase and told you "you didn't buy me XJ Holdings did" you would have slapped his candy *ss all the way back to Montana.....:D