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Old 05-07-2011 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by olympic
I'm not going to call the pilot racist because I haven't heard his side of the story .. but I will definitely call it ignorant.
How can it be racist when race is not even involved?
Last time I checked, being muslim isn't a race.
Old 05-07-2011 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
If the Capt. really removed them because the other passengers were uncomfortable, he should have removed the "other" passengers. Booting these gents is simply redneck racism at its worst.
Id say rednecks are pretty scarce in New York, but when there is a "Muslim" on the plane...try telling a New Yorker there is nothing to worry about.

Why do you think they were attending a conference about the fear of Islam? Because after 9/11 that's just how people are
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Originally Posted by Lambourne
How many RJ's would these guys have to hijack to do any damage? It's an RJ, not sure it could do any more damage to the world than the wounds it has inflicted on the careers of so many.

If the Terrorist wanted to inflict maximum damage they would pay the airlines to fly RJ's. Between the passenger travel experience and job losses, a flying RJ is definitely a weapon of mass destruction- to the industry.

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Same could be said for putting bombs on cargo planes with a crew of two. By definition terrorism defies logic.
Old 05-08-2011 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Since every situation is different, I think we should be applauding the fact that he had the guts to make the decision he did. Too many of us are unwilling to make, and stand by, the tough decisions in life.
I'll wait til we get more info before I give him a 'standing o'. There isn't enough info to say if this is a smart call or a stupid call or even his call at all yet. The media so far has painted this in a pretty biased light. I imagine/hope there is more to the story.
Old 05-08-2011 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Frick
Id say rednecks are pretty scarce in New York, but when there is a "Muslim" on the plane...try telling a New Yorker there is nothing to worry about.

Why do you think they were attending a conference about the fear of Islam? Because after 9/11 that's just how people are
I am a New Yorker and when I see a muslim on a plane I never think "OH GOD IT'S A TERRORIST" that is too ignorant, thank god New Yorkers aren't like that, we live in a city that has a lot of diversity. Is everyone in Tennessee KKK ?
Old 05-08-2011 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Frick
I really don't think racism is part of the problem. Im not saying there aren't racists out there, but after 9/11 99.9% of the American flying public get uncomfortable if they are on a flight with "muslims". There's lots of people that don't think they have a racist bone in their body, but when they see a person sitting 2 seats away that could be perceived as a "muslim" their mind starts thinking. Most people won't say anything, but it does happen.
I'm not saying what the captain did was right. Personally, I would have let them fly, but if you want to call him a racist then you also have to call 99.9% of the flying public racists also. If you would have removed the passengers who were a uncomfortable then the two muslims would have been the only one on the flight. Thats just how people think now, and it will take a long time for people think otherwise. Its just like how people are scared to fly in the first place. You can give them all the facts and tell them you're more likely to die on the way to the airport than on the flight itself, but most people still get nervous while the airplane is throttling up for take-off. The facts and statistics are there, but it doesnt change the way they think.
Let's face it... 9/11 effected more than just the twin towers.
Can you please explain to me how the general public on an airplane would know that the person sitting next to them is a Muslim, Jew, Christian or whatever? And just in case you did not know, Islam is a religion not a race. Let’s not pass judgment on the action of the crew till we hear the whole story.
Old 05-08-2011 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
I'll wait til we get more info before I give him a 'standing o'. There isn't enough info to say if this is a smart call or a stupid call or even his call at all yet. The media so far has painted this in a pretty biased light. I imagine/hope there is more to the story.
post best post on this thread. well said
Old 05-08-2011 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
I'll wait til we get more info before I give him a 'standing o'. There isn't enough info to say if this is a smart call or a stupid call or even his call at all yet. The media so far has painted this in a pretty biased light. I imagine/hope there is more to the story.
I second that emotion .
The media does have a bad habit of jumping the gun on stories like this and we schould have learned this from past media stories involving situations like this but apparently not .



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Old 05-08-2011 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by olympic
I am a New Yorker and when I see a muslim on a plane I never think "OH GOD IT'S A TERRORIST" that is too ignorant, thank god New Yorkers aren't like that, we live in a city that has a lot of diversity. Is everyone in Tennessee KKK ?
Yep. If you think the Imams got a rough ride, you ought to see what we do to Yankees!
Old 05-08-2011 | 06:43 AM
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Some of the posts here are way off base. You people would seriously risk letting a potential terrorist on your plane in order to avoid being labeled a 'racist'?!

Originally Posted by olympic
I'm not going to call the pilot racist because I haven't heard his side of the story .. but I will definitely call it ignorant.
It's ignorant of YOU to assume that the sole reason these people were kicked off is because they were muslim. I'd wager that in the course of this captain's career he's carried more than one muslim in the past, therefore there was clearly something that set the people in question apart which we are not privy to.

Kudos to the ASA crew. I'll be damned if I ever push back from the gate with a doubt in my mind as to whether or not someone on my airplane is a terrorist, regardless of the reason. If they want to be offended they can do it while being questioned by some TSA goon. If you want to call me a racist for that then feel free, it doesn't hurt my feelings. I may have some choice words for you as well though.
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