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Old 08-18-2011 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Subpilot
Can you please point out a few of these loop holes you speak of.
No. Read the LOA and work the angles.
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Old 08-18-2011 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
No. Read the LOA and work the angles.
First off, it's a grievance settlement, not a LOA. Second, I've read the settlement countless times, and don't see all the loopholes you speak of. What specifically are you talking about when it comes to loopholes?
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Old 08-19-2011 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by buddies8
No. Read the LOA and work the angles.
If he's an F/O, that means he's only been there a few years at most and has little idea of agreements of the past, what they really meant and what this means. I've read it too and it's so full of holes, it's course mesh.

Eagle has a whole new group of wide-eyed dreamers now.
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Old 08-19-2011 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
If he's an F/O, that means he's only been there a few years at most and has little idea of agreements of the past, what they really meant and what this means. I've read it too and it's so full of holes, it's course mesh.

Eagle has a whole new group of wide-eyed dreamers now.
Better than a group of bitter old miserable geezers. Sorry it took you over two decades at a regional to move on. Is that why you are obsessed with constantly trying to beat down everyone's optimism over their own careers on this and on another pilot forum? But seriously, since you seem to find plenty of time to harp on the demise of Eagle and the Swiss cheese nature of the grievance settlement, could you go through and point out some of the obvious "holes" in it? I really am interested in your analysis. If I were you though, I'd be more worried about this:
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/08/...ppear-by-2020/

Oh, and I'm 6th year at Eagle, so I wasn't here for most of the whole letter 3 debacle, but flew with enough flowbacks, as well as displaced captains down in SJU to get a pretty good understanding. I may have even flown with you before.

I'm normally kind of pessimistic by nature, so I have no grand illusions of being at AA anytime soon, or at all by the way things look there financially, but it irks me to have someone constantly trying to force everyone else to be as negative and unhappy as they are, just for the sake of doing so.

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Old 08-19-2011 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by m78fl370
Better than a group of bitter old miserable geezers. Sorry it took you over two decades at a regional to move on. Is that why you are obsessed with constantly trying to beat down everyone's optimism over their own careers on this and on another pilot forum? But seriously, since you seem to find plenty of time to harp on the demise of Eagle and the Swiss cheese nature of the grievance settlement, could you go through and point out some of the obvious "holes" in it? I really am interested in your analysis. If I were you though, I'd be more worried about this:
These 3 Companies Could Disappear by 2020 - DailyFinance

Oh, and I'm 6th year at Eagle, so I wasn't here for most of the whole letter 3 debacle, but flew with enough flowbacks, as well as displaced captains down in SJU to get a pretty good understanding. I may have even flown with you before.

I'm normally kind of pessimistic by nature, so I have no grand illusions of being at AA anytime soon, or at all by the way things look there financially, but it irks me to have someone constantly trying to force everyone else to be as negative and unhappy as they are, just for the sake of doing so.
+100 i agree fully
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