I dare you to leave your CFI failures off your application.

 

Is it 3 or more

-or-

more than 3?

 

From what I have heard from quite a few people its 3 OR more....

 

We shall find out in a few weeks I'm in the 3 or more crowd and if I get the automatic non interview I'll let everyone know.

 

So if the average is 80% pass rate, there should be very few pilots with no failures if you have had 10 or more checkrides.

 

In the airline world, there are very few pilots with a failure at any point in their flying lives - including the training and flying that led up to their current jobs. The motivation to pass every training event and checkride is very high once one has reached the airlines, for a few reasons. One is that word of a failed checkride for any given pilot usually travels like wildfire to the respective pilot's crew base - "Hey, did you hear that Joe So-and-so failed his PC last week?" Most of us have no desire to be THAT guy. Another reason is pay related. If a line qualified pilot fails a PC, he will be removed from flight status, without pay, until he passes. Most of us are not in a financial position to be removed from flight status due to a failure. Thirdly, most of us who might fail a PC would have to face the embarrassment of admitting to our families that we failed and were removed from flight status without pay. I would be horrified at the thought of that myself.

Thus, the motivation to succeed each and every time is very, very high.

Also, for most of my career - up until maybe four years ago, competition for the job was usually enough to motivate pilots with airline aspirations to work extra hard at NOT failing at any level of training or checking, simply due to that fact that it could come back to haunt you later - at the job interview. There were too many highly qualified pilots with ZERO failures to risk showing up with one of your own.

For all of these reasons, in the twenty six years I've been a pilot, I've never had one failure of any kind. I simply treat each and every training and checking event as if my job counted on it. Almost every singly pilot I know at this level will honestly tell you that he or she has never had a failure either. That's just a fact.

I will admit, however, that the paradigm may be shifting toward more of the applicants having had failures in their past - I don't consider this a good thing.

 

I have 2 speeding tickets from december 2006 and 1 for "failing to stop on a red light" on Feb 2008. The one from 2008 is still on my record but it is shown as Dismissed.

I got an email yesterday saying that my application was going to be reviewed in 2 days..... Will I get a chance? or do I have to wait until next year to have 5 years with only one ticket??

I know this might be a very dumb question but..... do you guys log the total landings to date? like I log my landings for each flight but I just dont add them up in my logbook... same thing with my approaches.. I have a column for number of approaches but I dont add up the totals...

 

Hey how are you? You shouldn't have a problem getting the interview if your over the mins. Speeding tickets I wouldn't worry about. But if and when you get the interview, tell them everything, and I mean everything, even if it was a ticket 8 years ago. I got some stupid meter ticket for letting it go over the time. I paid it, i got my entire history for the interview rather then the 5 year and nothing came up. In hr they were like anything and I said oh well I got this I thought they just meant moving violations. Needless to say I got the pre-offer and my packet passed the review board.

However with your logbook. Total everything in ever column "TO THE TENTH" I spent 2 days, 5 hours a day checking, rechecking and rechecking one more time to make sure everything was correct. Even my landings, everything was totaled. And to be honest, at the bottom of every column except for the last page of my logbook I had slash marks with the updated CORRECT times and they didn't mind it at all. But your logbook is the first thing that will get you sent home within the first 20 minutes of that interview.

On another note, anyone going to the ATP CRJ course in JAX this weekend till next? I'll be there.

 

Do you mind sharing your times and when you submitted your app?
I sent mine on 8/26 (820/51), all I got is the auto reply.
I know it's too soon to expect a reply but just trying to see how long it took you to get the "reviewing your application" e-mail...
Thanks!

 

I sent my app in on the 24th last week and got the 2 day review notice Monday morning. Now I’m just waiting to hear something back… Anybody have any insight on how long after the two day review notice it has been taking for them to give you a response? (1400TT, 50ME)