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Old 10-17-2011 | 07:24 AM
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Maybe we should start a pool on when we think this thing is going to come out
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Old 10-17-2011 | 07:36 AM
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Maybe we should start a pool on when we think this thing is going to come out
Maybe they're hoping the Mayans were right about 2012 and they won't have to finish the award.
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Old 10-17-2011 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Maybe they're hoping the Mayans were right about 2012 and they won't have to finish the award.
Alright, so tennis has his money on 12/12/12...anyone else?
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Old 10-17-2011 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jdalbrec
Maybe we should start a pool on when we think this thing is going to come out
which revision are we referring to?
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Old 10-17-2011 | 09:26 AM
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Well, it's not going to be out soon enough to get folks through training before the SAAB disappears...

I'd say there's a lucky group of guys awaiting displacement - the senior folks, who can bid for the last training slot... they could potentially have zero company obligations on the schedule making guarantee - then making guarantee on their displacement airframe when the junior folks finish training...

Bid May! 6 month vacation.
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Old 10-17-2011 | 10:06 AM
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I don't understand the bit about the Saab going away.....doesn't the Colgan side have plenty that are staying?
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Old 10-17-2011 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
Well, it's not going to be out soon enough to get folks through training before the SAAB disappears...

I'd say there's a lucky group of guys awaiting displacement - the senior folks, who can bid for the last training slot... they could potentially have zero company obligations on the schedule making guarantee - then making guarantee on their displacement airframe when the junior folks finish training...

Bid May! 6 month vacation.

Exactly, the longer it's delayed the more it's going to cost the company. At some point they have to realize it's in their best interest as well to not be so embarrassing.
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Old 10-17-2011 | 11:44 AM
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I don't understand the bit about the Saab going away.....doesn't the Colgan side have plenty that are staying?
Hm..... if you're a Mesaba guy.... do you go the easy way or the hard way?

1) Stay on certificate, so no indoc, drug testing, etc., to remain on Mesaba 200 or 900 aircraft.

2) does the grandfathered rate apply to Mesaba folks who displace into a Colgan SAAB? I'd hope so, but I doubt it...
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Old 10-17-2011 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
Hm..... if you're a Mesaba guy.... do you go the easy way or the hard way?

1) Stay on certificate, so no indoc, drug testing, etc., to remain on Mesaba 200 or 900 aircraft.

2) does the grandfathered rate apply to Mesaba folks who displace into a Colgan SAAB? I'd hope so, but I doubt it...
#1, not an option for many of us
#2 No. If you go to a Colgan base on the Saab you go at thier pay rates. The grandfather rate was only good as long as you stayed on a Mesaba based Saab (which won't exist by the end of the year) Not that it matters because with the fences only Colgan pilots will hold captain on the Saabs anyway.
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Old 10-17-2011 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
#1, not an option for many of us
#2 No. If you go to a Colgan base on the Saab you go at thier pay rates. The grandfather rate was only good as long as you stayed on a Mesaba based Saab (which won't exist by the end of the year) Not that it matters because with the fences only Colgan pilots will hold captain on the Saabs anyway.
Actually, you do keep the grandfathered rates if you are displaced.

From the contract:

"2. The Pilot holds a Position at Mesaba on the SF340 on February 18, 2011, and is displaced to any SF340 Position. In such case, the Pilot will continue to receive the Grandfather Rate provided the Pilot has not been awarded a different Category as a result of a voluntary bid."
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