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Old 10-17-2011 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
Hm..... if you're a Mesaba guy.... do you go the easy way or the hard way?

1) Stay on certificate, so no indoc, drug testing, etc., to remain on Mesaba 200 or 900 aircraft.

2) does the grandfathered rate apply to Mesaba folks who displace into a Colgan SAAB? I'd hope so, but I doubt it...
There will be no XJ aircraft very soon, XJ guys will have to go through some type of training regardless of which aircraft they are on.

That means indoc, drug testing, ect.
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Old 10-17-2011 | 12:40 PM
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True but because of the fence language, we can't displace to a Colgan Saab. Well not as captain anyway.
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Old 10-17-2011 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
True but because of the fence language, we can't displace to a Colgan Saab. Well not as captain anyway.
Why not?

If they are over the fence we can displace them.

Which, depending on how many Colgan Saab captains go to the Q400 or a jet, they should be close to being filled (fence).
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Old 10-17-2011 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
#1, not an option for many of us
#2 No. If you go to a Colgan base on the Saab you go at thier pay rates. The grandfather rate was only good as long as you stayed on a Mesaba based Saab (which won't exist by the end of the year) Not that it matters because with the fences only Colgan pilots will hold captain on the Saabs anyway.
#2 being addressed by Bartok - don't you displace from CA to CA if you have say, DTW SF3 CA on file, but you are a CRW commuter and have CRW SF3 CA as your #2 bid? Color me clueless but - that's what I'd hope for - only if you WANTED to switch certificates....

#1 - if you've got the seniority to stay at the current Mesaba (ie the jets), would you not put that as your first displacement slot? CA or FO?

FWIW - Even though the Mesaba Jets are tentatively scheduled to become Pinnacle Jets on Dec 1st, that's as a fenced environment only... if I ran the show, that would mean that you guys would get revisions to your books instead of drug tests, PRIAS, and indoc, so that the fenced operation can gradually become Pinnacle, a la Delta/NWA...

edit: now I see your "not an option"... I am assuming that you are a CRJ900 guy, albeit junior, so the senior guys that get displaced will potentially bump you from your seat? That's what I thought the super-vacancy took care of though - so that guys at minimum stay CAs...
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Old 10-17-2011 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
#2 being addressed by Bartok - don't you displace from CA to CA if you have say, DTW SF3 CA on file, but you are a CRW commuter and have CRW SF3 CA as your #2 bid? Color me clueless but - that's what I'd hope for - only if you WANTED to switch certificates....

#1 - if you've got the seniority to stay at the current Mesaba (ie the jets), would you not put that as your first displacement slot? CA or FO?

FWIW - Even though the Mesaba Jets are tentatively scheduled to become Pinnacle Jets on Dec 1st, that's as a fenced environment only... if I ran the show, that would mean that you guys would get revisions to your books instead of drug tests, PRIAS, and indoc, so that the fenced operation can gradually become Pinnacle, a la Delta/NWA...
You're right, it should be as "easy" as NW/Delta, but I have my doubts.
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Old 10-17-2011 | 02:21 PM
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Troll, hardly! Just a different opinion than yours. We all get fired up sometimes... Have a great day
re-read my post. I didn't refer to YOU as a troll, you troll!
I was referring to the guys you referred to as a good cross section of what 9e pilots think...
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Old 10-18-2011 | 04:21 AM
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So is today considered "early next week" because I would say tomorrow is the middle of the week and Thursday starts the end of the week... just sayin... too critical?
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Old 10-18-2011 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MunkyButtr
So is today considered "early next week" because I would say tomorrow is the middle of the week and Thursday starts the end of the week... just sayin... too critical?
Sounds reasonable to me! But doubtful...
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Old 10-18-2011 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MunkyButtr
So is today considered "early next week" because I would say tomorrow is the middle of the week and Thursday starts the end of the week... just sayin... too critical?
Ya doesnt look like it
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Old 10-18-2011 | 02:36 PM
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Guys come on, got to read between the lines, he meant early next week...next week

Expect another apology letter before the weekend


OOPS Looks like I was proven wrong. Award is out!!!!!!!!!!!

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