Pinacolaba D-Day Round 2
11-02-2011 | 07:58 AM
#921
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From: AN124 FE
So what's the union going to do about it, Mr Wychor? Nothing as usual...
Oh, so for all the folks complaining about lack of communication from the previous Pinnacle MEC (not the Sucker-controlled MEC), welcome to the new boss, same as the old boss.
Cooperate with the company to help themselves to the schmoozing policies of the NMFC, Mem****, and the whole lot of southern crap.
Figures that the MEC meet and greets are smack dab in the middle of turns, so they're not going to see anyone.
If I get another Union update about cooperating with the company, I think I'll have an aneurism.
Oh, so for all the folks complaining about lack of communication from the previous Pinnacle MEC (not the Sucker-controlled MEC), welcome to the new boss, same as the old boss.
Cooperate with the company to help themselves to the schmoozing policies of the NMFC, Mem****, and the whole lot of southern crap.
Figures that the MEC meet and greets are smack dab in the middle of turns, so they're not going to see anyone.
If I get another Union update about cooperating with the company, I think I'll have an aneurism.
All joking aside
Relax sir! Were all in this crap together and everyone is frustrated to some extent, whining on here wont do anything.
11-02-2011 | 08:29 AM
#922
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2008
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The irony here is, you complain about the lack of quality work by ALPA, and are told to run. When you "run", or "volunteer", you're told that you're considered rogue and as such, they don't want you on staff. So, catch-22... they don't want to hear you ***** as a customer, and they don't want for you to rock their flight-pay-loss boat as a volunteer/rep.
That's good stuff. (Whining on here seems to get more done than actually calling reps, haven't even gotten my JCBA Hotline call back)... though I do find it awesome that I could start baseless rumors about the new reps because I *know* they're not here to defend it. I love it! 
ALPA is on it's way out in this industry. Might as well call it RALPA, when the Delta guys get rid of ALPA.
But fine guys, I'll take the company and ALPA beatings as usual, without bothering your dedicated little hearts about it at all.
I don't even like unions, but I know that ALPA has us by the ball hairs on the whole agency shop deal. If, as you guys seem to think, the company is getting along so well us, why don't we go ahead and try to forge ahead without a bargaining agent? Not willing to try that? Then why be upset about a line pilot being upset with lack of ALPA action?
11-02-2011 | 08:40 AM
#923
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Joined: Nov 2009
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From: AN124 FE
I have run for office... the "anti-blowhards" at ALPA don't like guys that are going to hold the company accountable. Trust me on that one.
The irony here is, you complain about the lack of quality work by ALPA, and are told to run. When you "run", or "volunteer", you're told that you're considered rogue and as such, they don't want you on staff. So, catch-22... they don't want to hear you ***** as a customer, and they don't want for you to rock their flight-pay-loss boat as a volunteer/rep.
That's good stuff. (Whining on here seems to get more done than actually calling reps, haven't even gotten my JCBA Hotline call back)... though I do find it awesome that I could start baseless rumors about the new reps because I *know* they're not here to defend it. I love it!
ALPA is on it's way out in this industry. Might as well call it RALPA, when the Delta guys get rid of ALPA.
But fine guys, I'll take the company and ALPA beatings as usual, without bothering your dedicated little hearts about it at all.
I don't even like unions, but I know that ALPA has us by the ball hairs on the whole agency shop deal. If, as you guys seem to think, the company is getting along so well us, why don't we go ahead and try to forge ahead without a bargaining agent? Not willing to try that? Then why be upset about a line pilot being upset with lack of ALPA action?
The irony here is, you complain about the lack of quality work by ALPA, and are told to run. When you "run", or "volunteer", you're told that you're considered rogue and as such, they don't want you on staff. So, catch-22... they don't want to hear you ***** as a customer, and they don't want for you to rock their flight-pay-loss boat as a volunteer/rep.
That's good stuff. (Whining on here seems to get more done than actually calling reps, haven't even gotten my JCBA Hotline call back)... though I do find it awesome that I could start baseless rumors about the new reps because I *know* they're not here to defend it. I love it! ALPA is on it's way out in this industry. Might as well call it RALPA, when the Delta guys get rid of ALPA.
But fine guys, I'll take the company and ALPA beatings as usual, without bothering your dedicated little hearts about it at all.
I don't even like unions, but I know that ALPA has us by the ball hairs on the whole agency shop deal. If, as you guys seem to think, the company is getting along so well us, why don't we go ahead and try to forge ahead without a bargaining agent? Not willing to try that? Then why be upset about a line pilot being upset with lack of ALPA action?
11-02-2011 | 08:54 AM
#924
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We, atleast I, get where your coming from without a doubt. Your right they do not respond hardly and are most likely on the way out BUT besides the rumor spreading etc. It doesnt do much, by all means if it helps you not blow a gasket go ahead! The question is when will it end?
11-02-2011 | 02:19 PM
#926
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From: In charge of the remote
11-02-2011 | 03:30 PM
#927
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From: Couch-Horizontal
Why not? Why are we not filing grievances on these contractual violations? You know the process right? It doesn't go to an arbitrator at first - it goes to the company and we get to hear the company's stance - "pound sand", "sorry our bad, here it is", etc. I'd like to know that my Union is holding the company's feet to the fire.
Oh that's right, we're not a real Union.
I do have a few days off right now, that's why the Union, doing nothing as usual, is annoying me. But whatever, the Union forever remains a Good-Ole-Boys-Club.
I don't want appeasers on my MEC. I'm more of a Northwest Airlines kind of guy. I want to fight the company tooth and nail at every turn when I sense weakness.
Why is this Union update referencing "MyMesaba.com" anyways? I can't go there. Why is this update not referencing "FlyPinnacle" or pclmec.alpa.org? Since this is the "Pinnacle" MEC, not the "Mesaba" MEC.... It's about as fishy as doing my System Bid Preference form on that same website. Did I miss a memo? We're going to the blue and silver uni's?
Oh that's right, we're not a real Union.
I do have a few days off right now, that's why the Union, doing nothing as usual, is annoying me. But whatever, the Union forever remains a Good-Ole-Boys-Club.
I don't want appeasers on my MEC. I'm more of a Northwest Airlines kind of guy. I want to fight the company tooth and nail at every turn when I sense weakness.
Why is this Union update referencing "MyMesaba.com" anyways? I can't go there. Why is this update not referencing "FlyPinnacle" or pclmec.alpa.org? Since this is the "Pinnacle" MEC, not the "Mesaba" MEC.... It's about as fishy as doing my System Bid Preference form on that same website. Did I miss a memo? We're going to the blue and silver uni's?
Let's really take it to them. -900 Capt pay for everybody until the award is published on time. I am calling Wychor right now. Tell him to march into Sean's office and tell him how it's going to go. That will teach them to mess with us!
11-02-2011 | 06:23 PM
#928
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11-02-2011 | 06:58 PM
#930
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It said that on the final award. And the Class Bid Date Award was posted yesterday/today. And all the people who are staying on the same equipment, have no training, and no move date listed. Is there going to be a REV3?
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