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Old 10-09-2006 | 07:40 AM
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Rick, I think you missed the point of the original question. What each airliner "prefers" is up to them - but I haven't seen anyone actually lower their hiring minimums just to pick up someone with "glass cockpit" experience, unless you count the academy kids, ERAU, etc. who already have deals worked out. Otherwise, flight time is flight time. PIC still includes your first solo and turbine still includes the Brazilia.
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Old 10-10-2006 | 04:00 PM
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Okay so turboprop pilots can easily handle a jet workload...but what do majors think of say....Shorts time? Yeah its turbine, a turboprop whose empty weight is heavier than the Jetstream's max gross....yet its slower that the Cessna 404 I fly. What do majors think of shorts time? Still turbine time and thats all that counts? I guess youre alo flying in the worst weather at the low altitudes, maybe that counts for something too?
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Old 10-10-2006 | 04:07 PM
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I think the real issue here is old school steam vs. new school LCDs.

In my experience, it's not prop vs. jet as the issue, it's can you go from working hard to GET information to having TOO MUCH information and filtering it out at the right time?

I think I'd kill myself if I took steam into the soup today!!! It's been along time baby...
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Old 10-10-2006 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by G2TT
That's cool, I just don't know that I agree with your facts. These days most people grow up with computers a big part in their life. I don't think the glass cockpit is that big of a deal (yeah, I have glass time too). I think it is their personal attitude that does it. If a bunch of flight instructors coming from ratty 172's are making it through rj initial training for most of the airlines out there, I think it defeats your argument.
I was a CFI flying ratty 172's and had very little trouble getting the hang of the CRJ's glass display. Going back to steam would probably be way harder. Its not that people are unfamiliar with computers, its that you have a different scan in glass than with steam. Some people do have problems making the adjustment - 2 of 10 in my new hire class didn't make it in the sim. FWIW, there was a higher washout rate with lower TT guys.
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Old 10-10-2006 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by G2TT
I don't think it is the props that are the deciding factor passing training. I think regional airlines are more than happy to hire anyone with 121 experience regardless of what was pushing them through the air.
The only guy in my class that didn't make it thru the sim was a 1900 CA with 1000+ TPIC and 3000+ TT. The active CFI's with <1000 TT sailed right thru.
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Old 10-10-2006 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by fosters
The only guy in my class that didn't make it thru the sim was a 1900 CA with 1000+ TPIC and 3000+ TT. The active CFI's with <1000 TT sailed right thru.
And that happens, unfortunately attitude and ambition have as much to do with success as flying experience. The problem with captains is the attitude that they already know everything and CAN't fail. Cooperate to graduate kids!
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Old 10-11-2006 | 03:01 PM
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I was at a career fair and approached ASA. I had almost exactly 600 TT and 330 Multi with 300 SIC Turbine. They had an unofficial min of 600/100ME with ERAU if you had to have taken the Riddle CRJ course (ground and FTD training) or had done some training in a glass cockpit (new cessnas). I figured that with my 300 turbine I might be able to get a nibble. No Go. They said if I took an RJ course I could get an interview. Granted, they might not have liked my attitude/appearance or other things about me, but I'm pretty sure it was the glass factor.

My buddy had a similiar experience while working for ATP. He was looking at applying to XJT and ASA and was told that without some kind of glass experience he wouldn't qualify for the bridge and preferential hiring programs.
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Old 10-11-2006 | 03:11 PM
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600/100 mins!?!

Geeze, not to be a jerk, but it was only a couple years ago XJT wanted 1500/500 with 100 actual. Comair & ASA wanted similar times, & Whisky wasn't even interviewing.


Stay a flight instructor. Get 500 to 1000 dual given. Its worth it.

You'll learn how not to be killed.
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