Optimism about what? About Eagle possibly getting 100 seaters?

Really.....

 

Eagle's President has said that in order for the divested new company, formerly known as 'American Eagle', but soon to have a new name and only do business under the 'American Eagle' brand (owned by AMR) to survive, they will HAVE to be successful in obtaining outside flying feeding other carriers. It's not surprising they would position themselves to do that. Other carriers may want more access to DFW and if the new company (whatever it's called) has the gate space and can accomodate larger aircraft, that would be an integral component. That terminal may indeed have larger RJ's, but they have another legacies paint on them when they pull up to the gate. No guarantee's, but I think that is a primary idea.

In order to GET those outside contracts, you have to have the infrastructure to offer attractive possibilities, otherwise it's that much harder to get your snout into the tent flap. The "spilling" of this tidbit also plays into the hope it will influence the percentage of saps at Eagle who plan to sell themsleves down the river for the hope of larger and shinier metal, for to actually realize that dream of flying larger aircraft for others, they'll be paid LESS then what they make now flying 37-50 seats by 2014.

 

I'd call it "blind optimism". If the Eagle TA goes through, they very well WILL get 100-seaters and be flying them for 50-seat rates that get adjusted yearly to ensure they remain the Ralph Kramden's of the industry.

The irony will be in 5-7 years when most of them come to the horrifying realization they wont be going to any majors due to the new proliferation of the new "RJ" and that tradional domestic mainline flying has that much more eroded from its existance and thus shrinks at the rate of retirements (or thereabouts) offering very few slots for this new breed of "regional pilots" to leave for.

I see basically history repeating itself on steroids wherby the former "regional pilots", become the future "small-jet pilots. "RJ's" will morph into "SJ's" and the new career for the majority (at least 75%) will be a lower-middle class income that approximates that of a typical Home Improvement Store manager.........well, at least captains.

Those who spend extnded time as F/O's in that environment spanning many years..............well, do we really need to go there ?

The career major airline pilot profession is in the mid-late stages of death and this next batch will finish it off. Right now, there is too much blindness from shiny metal, so most won't see this coming until well after it's over, just like 20 years ago when that first innocent little Comair CRJ-200 showed up and no one thought it would amount to much. That little plane is already HALF the domestic schedule overall and if mainline scope is lost, so will 2/3 of the remaining half, sentancing the majority of the future airline pilots of the U.S. to crap.

 

Personal thoughts/opinions (ex-Eagle, current JB):

-9 gates at DFW is way more than JB could make use of
-The 190 at JB is being pulled from most routes ~800nm+ because of poor performance (DFW-BOS/JFK/FLL/MCO are all 800+)
-We have been hearing rumors of DFW service at JB, but that would most likely be a token amount of A320 DFW-BOS/JFK flights (2-3x daily each)
-APA would flip their lid if Eagle started flying E190s

Conclusion:

AMR/AA is setting up to eventually get 100seaters in AA colors, operated by APA pilots. JB has been trying to get rid of future E190 deliveries, so I wouldnt be surprised if they worked out a sweetheart deal with AA for those planes. Also dont forget this article is just describing some blueprints that are a very early stage of the planning process. The AA terminal in JFK was originally planned to have a huge wing that would be exclusively for Eagle. Needless to say that never happened and Eagle operates out of an afterthought of a jetbridge setup.

 

Do you really think that AMR wants Eagle to grow, that this divestiture is about growing a regional airlines, while the stage is set to shrink them. Why would AMR allow Eagle to grow in DFW for other carriers, bring competition to their house. Right now it's safe to say that regionals won't be buying any new 50 seat RJ due to (fuel cost as well as pilot wages). The regional pilot wages are as low as they will be in part due the lack of a surplus of pilots. Right now there isn't a surplus like years past so the major carriers can't move the flying around as efficiently. We know that the pilots at the majors won't let SCOPE get any worse than it is. Large RJ are not as profitable as an Airbus 319. With the current pilot wages at the regionals and the fuel prices it's more economical to fly an Airbus 319 than 2 CRJ 700, if you think I am wrong how come RAH got E190 for sale and jet blue decided not exercise offers and return aircraft to the lease company. JetBlue is growing but it won't be RJ it will be Airbus A320 family aircraft. AA will do the same, Eagle flying shifted to the Airbus aircraft they will get. Everyone says Eagle has signed all these lease extensions, don't forget AMR controls Eagle and can just take this gates under their name. The management at Eagle are Employees of AMR, they will do what's best for AMR. United, Delta and everyone else knows this. It's all a pony show for the SEC.

 

Interesting that they are adding the A-380 gates.

 

OMG OMG Eagle is getting A380s !!!!

 

Once again, I am a NO vote on the current TA. Just in case you were referring to me. Or did you thing I would vote yes to possibly get E-190s? I'm not a sucker, nor easily manipulated. I'm a NO vote to the end....

Your response was, finally the kind I was hoping for since the beginning of this thread. Thank you for making a logical argument...except I disagree that there are so many "saps" at Eagle who would be influenced by E-190s.

Unlike 1997 we don't have multiple certificates being played against one another. Plus the widespread use of the internet these days has increased the amount of information out there to our pilots. I don't think this is something that AMR, the MEC, and others anticipated.

In regards to the possible arrival of 100 seat aircraft, there is a third possibility which I have been avoiding even mentioning. This could all be in preperation for a AA/Jetblue merger. I hope not...

 

Reading and comprehension skills are basic requirements for pilots...you may want to re-evaluate your career choice.

Terminal D is being prepared for the A380. That is the international terminal in DFW. The terminal being equipped for 100 seat aircraft is...for the 1000000x time, EAGLE's terminal...or AMR's terminal, however you want to look at it...hence the point of this thread. Whatever is happening in terminal D or other parts of DFW has nothing to do with Eagle, AMR, or this discussion.

 

An AA merger with anybody is LETHAL to the AE pilot group.