embraer

What....speak very slowly. Or else Brewcity will think you are implying that Eagle is getting the A380. Maybe you could draw him a picture...

embraer

In more ways than one....

DENpilot

He was being sarcastic. The fact you cannot comprehend this speaks volumes about your personality and lets us all know that you will continue to be the gullible, hard headed person that no one can tell otherwise.

I'll end with this. Airports do construction. It's a fact, not some big conspiracy.

embraer

He is a big boy...I'm sure he can speak for himself. Don't try to backpedal for him. He made a poor attempt at humor by taking a swipe at this discussion.

I'll end with this. AMR paid for the new gate construction in terminal B...not DFW airport. Now, back to your lair to try and come up with 3 reasons why it aint so...

What is your big beef with this anyway? My guess is Eagle rejected you and you have since been hoping for their downfall.

What

I don't "usually' try to play games. People interpreted what you said as AE getting the 100 seaters. The B terminal belongs to the DFW Airport and it's leased to AE who is owned by AMR. Eagle currently does all the regional feed for AA out of DFW. As of today all of AA regional feed out of DFW is made out of RJs of 50 seats or less and 60+ Seat props. AMR will change their feed structure by decreasing the number of smaller aircraft and replacing them with larger equipment. Who will fly the equipment it's still being negotiated (SCOPE) but one thing is certain, whatever gates AMR will use for regional feed need to be able to accommodate the equipment and the B gates currently are not configured for that.

What

If AMR pays for the terminal improvement they can increase their expenses, increase their losses, During contract negotiations this is an excellent move by management.

DENpilot

My beef is people like you who have this hopeful attitude that larger jets will come to regional airlines. You said yourself you'd like to see the 190 at Eagle and fly it because its "a fantastic airplane." That attitude is partly why this industry is in the sh***er.

Then when we try to reason with you, you insist your crew room banter, chats with random construction workers and union reps are better sources of information than the years of experience I and others on this board have in this industry.

If Southwest went out and built a hangar big enough to accomodate a 777, by your logic Southwest would be flying widebodies next week.

I would bet you sigh everytime you taxi by a E190.

Oh and to answer your question, Eagle rejected me because I have an incident on my record. I hold no ill-will towards them even though if they had cared to look at it, they may have hired me because of it, like XJT did.

embraer

Nice try. Yes, I would love to have the opportunity to fly a E-190. Just like millions of pilots would like to fly a 777, A380, etc... Its called having a passion for aviation. Remember what that felt like?

I never said I would fly anything for our current wages.. Which is part of the reason I'm a NO vote on our current TA. For all that is wrong with our industry, including pay, pilot's passions and love for what they do is not one of them.

I knew something went wrong between you and Eagle. Your bitterness seeps through every post of yours. Sorry it didn't work out.. But its time you moved on.

eaglefly

What ?

"Eagle" may or may not grow depending on scope changes. The CURRENT "Eagle" will shrink in the amount of flying they do for AA due to whipsawing, but MAY make that up with outside flying, but the road ahead for that is extremely dicey. THAT is why the TA has 4,332 exit/escape clauses (an exaggeration) for AMR. If the TA passes, the regional pilot wages will drop dramatically as the market for "how low can you go" regional pilot pay-wise will open.......and we all know fresh young pilots already at one regional will migrate at the drop of a hat for promises of shiny metal, fast upgrades or flowthrough's to mainline partners, REGARDLESS OF PAY........been doing it for years, my friend. As far as bringing in newhires, yes that IS likely to dramatically drop off, but that WILL NOT result in $40-50K/year RJ newhire wages. Instead, that market will shrink and likely the 100-125-seat range will fill the gap as the smaller RJ's disappear. I don't see too many of Eagle's 500 plus newhires leaving the industry because of the 25-30K they make now. In fact, Eagle is littered with pilots staying at Eagle for 10 years at feeble pay, ''waiting for their chance". It's always been a suckers game and let's face it, pilots are NOTORIOUS for being suckers.


We know no such thing. Anyone who thinks this is a certainty is deluding themselves.

Gee..............ya think ?

I'll file that in my "hot flash of the week" folder.

I think you're exactly correct, but if you had read any number of my posts over time, you'd have saved yourself most of this post.


Thanks for the lecture of the OBVIOUS in regards to Jet Blue. As for the lecture in regards to Eagle, I'll rely on my nearly two and a half DECADES at Eagle to tell me what you think I'm oblivious to. Yes, it is very possible this is a sham meant only to get a crap TA passed, but the final chapter of what is the current Eagle has yet to be written.

Just how long HAVE you been at Eagle anyway ?

What

This divestiture isn't about passing the TA, it's about bringing the cost at Eagle down. If they are able to lower cost and generate movement from the senior pilots to AA there is no reason to seek other regional airline for feed by AA. It's all about cost. The flow is there divested or not. They are trying to take your QOL and Pay to force to move else where. And if you don't go they will bring your pay down to what they would pay someone else. In other words they want you to fly for them but they are not going to pay you 6 figures to fly an RJ. You can stay at Eagle for less or move on to bigger and better things. That is what is happening here.

I've been here for a year, and I have much to learn.


AMR management controls Eagle, Right now Eagle is possibly being divested with an AMR infrastructure. Why would any other airline want to do business with "AMR" I mean the new Eagle that is run by AMR. Also, what are we going to do, buy the airplanes that RAH is selling because they can't fly them for profit under Frontier and can't get a dancing partner for them, better yet, lease RJs from AMR and fly them for Delta and United. Ohh you are referring to then stealing the CRJ from other carriers, I get it we are going to enter the whipsaw game with carriers who have less of a longevity than we do. AMR is building trying to build fortress (the cornerstone plan they have) why in the hell would they allow Eagle to bring in competition. At that point Eagle becomes a direct competitor. We have slots and gates but for one minute don't think AMR will let Eagle use those against them. You want to fly a Delta or United airplane see you in terminal E. I might be new here but understand business a little better than you Sir.


You are absolutely correct, your 100,000 a year makes it though for us to compete in the market. I am not against the senior pilots at Eagle. Most of you had other plans but with the way things have gone in the industry Eagle is the best fit for you.