I've heard that many still do.

 

I have to make a correction, I can't believe nobody gave me a ration over this:

Every time I said TWU in reference to Lynx representation, it should have been UTU. Sorry about that. UTU deserves a lot of credit in representing L4, they had collected next to no dues and represented the L4 pilots in an enthusiastic, highly experienced and professional manner.

 

What does the future hold for RAH's large fleet of Q400s?

 

The Q's will anchor the Colgan DEN base for Conited. I hear that 9E suggested a staple....

 

Seeing as I don't represent, or defend the IBT, I don't care what words they use or approve of.

So if someone makes you mad, it's then OK to disregard contractual language and crap all over your employees? To make out RAH's actions to be IBT's fault is the dumbest thing I've seen posted here in a long time, and that says a lot!

No, we just changed exco's, locals, and structures. It's not the same people, so the ones we hated are gone.

Yes, the IBT FORCED the company to ignore the CBA and force us to fly 190's for 170 rates. Come on! This is BS and you know it. They're snakes in the grass. They've been abusing us and lying at every turn for over a decade now and you have the gall to blame the IBT for it. It's the chicken and the egg. RAH has the relationship it does with it's pilots because of their own actions. IBT's attitude with management is in response to our past experiences with Bedford and Co. I could list numerous examples of lies we have caught him in with our group, "we've lost the United contract and it's all the pilots' fault," (amazingly a few days after our contact signing the United contract is announced) "we're losing money and can't afford what the pilots are asking for," (this before our last contract when they were privately held. A few months later in the IPO filings we discover they were making record profits the whole time!). Oh, here's a good one, "We have no intention of integrating the pilot groups of Frontier and Republic, if you all will just sign this LOA so we can have the scope to fly 190's on their cert." (within months he's integrated the companies to the point that NMB finds them a STS) Do you think he's so stupid he didn't know having one website, one corporate office, one HR department, would lead to this? He knew our scope required it and still told you all he wasn't going to merge us, making him either in breach of contract with us (and a liar), or a straight faced liar to you all, or both.

Management's goal is to make the absolute most profit possible. And when it's necessary to cut their costs via your pay to increase that profit, they'll screw you over and lie to your face to make it happen. They've done it in the past. A leopard can't change his spots.

I'm curious. For someone who hasn't been involved in any of our negotiations with the company, what qualifies you to comment on how they've negotiated?

They've been to the table. They've listened. What they heard was, "We're not going to negotiate a new CBA, just make slight changes in the current one," and, "The most we can give you is a 2% increase for your FO's." So what's your mutually agreeable solution to that, hotshot? How do negotiate and listen when the company draws a line in the sand and says status quo?

Bryan has stated that he doesn't believe he's gotten the best deal possible until he's taken negotiations right up to the strike vote. And they've refused to negotiate, right up to that point, again. Just like last time. I'll be curious to see how much better the almighty FAPA negotiators do if they ever get to negotiate a new CBA. Although at your current rate, it's in the company's best interest for you to keep your current contract for infinity, so I'm sure you'll continue to extend it out again with concessions to help Bryan finance the other half of his indoor court.

Yes it's so "low brow" to ask for industry standards like trip and duty rigs, scope protection, and raises for our FO's past four years, all at industry average rates. To what low brow thuggery do you refer? What exactly has the IBT done that's so outdated and low brow? Face it, the only thing that the IBT has done that you dislike is to refuse to bend over and accept the staple job that FAPA demanded with no budging, and then repeatedly whip you like an ugly stepchild in front of the mediator.

You cannot quote me EVER saying that. I cringe when I read others saying it. It's irrelevant in a list merger. I do concede that management made some mistakes to end up in BK. However, there were several talented people who once they had the opportunity to work with the reverend and co jumped ship. That speaks volumes.

Sean, without question.

 

F9 A319: No, not you! You F9 guys are ok in my book. I was referring to the fistpumping IBT, and yes the image of those tools "fistpumping" makes me laugh. Maybe its not completely accurate but making fun of the Teamsters by calling them guidos sure makes me smile. It almost makes me feel better while they destroy the profession by signing bull**** contracts one pos company at a time. Say, now that Moffett got "called on" will Gannon go back to school bus and truck driving?

 

Isn't the fleet size around 4?

 

" Your punctuation, grammar and the overall immaturity of your post demonstrates a portion of the case we made to Eischen and adds nothing of value to the discussion."

You said to Eischen "Look at this FrankWasRight guy,he can't compose a sentence" ? No wonder you LOST.


"If you listened to the Q3 Earnings ...."

Google "creative bookkeeping".FFD is guaranteed profit,i.e. insulated from fuel costs.Labor costs have stayed the same for years.Branded is NOT.Enron was a great..oh,wait..

I see Mulva is back ! Hey,how's that RPC campaign going ? But go ahead and trust BB,you're made for each other.

 

Actually, it was Pat Ryan IMHO.

 

You stay classy San Diego