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hawk2wp 12-10-2011 01:46 AM


Originally Posted by cencal83406 (Post 1099380)
Correction:

The union contract employees are going to be asked to give back, however the severance contract management types won't be asked to give back...

how the F is it possible that we are touchable as far as our contract, but the fine folks that ran this place into the ground get to keep their millions????

That I understand which is total bs too. My point was that nonrepresented employees will have their pay frozen for 2012 while the unionized work force will be asked to take a pay cut.
NO CONSESSIONS

jetstream11 12-10-2011 07:18 AM

Question...Does this mean if we are on year 1 FO pay, and am supposed to go to year 2 in 2012 that we won't. That I'll have to endure another year with crap pay?

Fly782 12-10-2011 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by jetstream11 (Post 1099514)
Question...Does this mean if we are on year 1 FO pay, and am supposed to go to year 2 in 2012 that we won't. That I'll have to endure another year with crap pay?

Well say we get 10% hacked off, depending on what aircraft it could be worse..

Saab second year would be less than first year pay, Q 2nd year cut is first year Pay and CRJ is 2nd year Q pay roughly

B200 Hawk 12-10-2011 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by jetstream11 (Post 1099514)
Question...Does this mean if we are on year 1 FO pay, and am supposed to go to year 2 in 2012 that we won't. That I'll have to endure another year with crap pay?

No we are unionized, they have no control over that. Non unionized employees get pay freezes and they think they are going to renegotiate our pay with ALPA (which won't/shouldn't happen)

BoilerUP 12-10-2011 07:37 AM

Nothing, repeat, NOTHING is going to happen to anybody's pay barring voluntary concessions ratified by the pilot group OR the actions of a Chapter 11 bankruptcy judge.

Fret not...

grupspdmode 12-10-2011 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Skypilotsv1984 (Post 1098866)
Thank you! I hope all mainline pilots decide to take back scope.

they wont, history has proven this..

ShyGuy 12-10-2011 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer (Post 1099353)
It does matter, the subject of this thread is "PinnaColaba Bankruptcy Soon", but yet Pinnacle has not filed any papers in any bankruptcy court. Your contradicting yourself when you say it doesn't matter. Now if you said that we should only expect some news and that now would be the time to short the stock, then that would be a different matter entirely. You were wrong, pinnacle did not declare bankruptcy.

I said soon, and I haven't been wrong so far. Everything they've done so far hints at bankruptcy. Pilots WILL be taking concessions, one way or another. We will have the nicer option of staying out of bankruptcy and having our MEC decide what concessions or cuts to give from our JCBA, OR, Pinnacle will declare bankrupcty and have the BK judge force it upon us. You decide! But I still stand by my statement, that PinnaColaba will soon declare bankruptcy. It's just the beginning right now. I'll talk to you soon when it happens.

ShyGuy 12-10-2011 08:32 AM

mooney, Saabs, and perpetualflyer. It's always the Colgan guys on this forum who are in denial. I don't see Pinnacle guys here disagreeing with what's been said in this thread.

etflies 12-10-2011 08:55 AM

Does it matter what group a pilot came from? The problems we face are tough enough for one unified group, never mind one that insists on dividing itself into who came from where.

mooney 12-10-2011 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1099569)
mooney, Saabs, and perpetualflyer. It's always the Colgan guys on this forum who are in denial. I don't see Pinnacle guys here disagreeing with what's been said in this thread.

Ahhh gotta love the know it all. When did Colgan hire me?
Guess I've been living a lie at Pinnacle the last 11 years. Strike 2 Shy....


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