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Old 01-05-2012 | 07:37 PM
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What are the most common reasons that people are washing out of their initial training?
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Old 01-05-2012 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mxaexm
What are the most common reasons that people are washing out of their initial training?
Not at a regional, but let me help you out:
1. Don't have the aptitude
2. Bad attitude
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Old 01-05-2012 | 07:48 PM
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Entitlement mentality
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Old 01-05-2012 | 07:49 PM
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In the airlines, I've seen people wash out in the sim because the airline isn't going to re-do your instrument rating. You better show up instrument-proficient.

I've also seen people wash out of IOE - they get too far behind the aircraft and show no progress as the time goes on.

Remember, attitude is everything. Have a good, positive attitude, show up prepared and you'll do fine.
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Old 01-05-2012 | 07:55 PM
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Instrument skills being weak
Bad Attitude
Poor study habits
Get thrown in jail for "urinating in public" or "Running from the cops because of a noise complaint"
Inability to utilize standard calls after 4 days of sim
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Old 01-05-2012 | 08:07 PM
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I can echo everything said so far.
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Old 01-05-2012 | 08:12 PM
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In the sim:
Instrument skills. A sim is a sim, its just a computer. Garbage in, garbage out.
Not knowing your profiles, callouts and flows dead cold before getting in. You will not be able to learn how to fly the manuevers if you are still trying to learn what to say or which switch to flip.

If you are good at those two things and arent a total moron at CRM then the sim is a piece of cake.

In ground:
If you lied about how many checkrides you failed or why you left an old job or forgot to put something on your application it will come back to you and you will get canned. Watched it happen to more than a couple pilots.

A good attitude, paying attention in class, and doing a little bit of studying will get you through the ground. Most people dont have to cram for hours every single night.

Do you have a class?
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Old 01-06-2012 | 03:37 AM
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In addition to the above: Not knowing limitations and memory items.
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Old 01-06-2012 | 04:20 AM
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People wash out at my company for:

1. Failing tests in ground school.

2. Not knowing callouts or being able to fly sim. Know your callouts and do a lot of chair flying in front of the mock up.

3. Not being able to line up and adjust altitude and speed properly on a visual approach during IOE. And visuals are what we get 90% of the time and several of them aren't easy, like the River Visual, Circle-to-Land 33 in DCA, Expressway Visual at LGA, etc. So it's kind of a big deal.

4. Whining.
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Old 01-06-2012 | 04:40 AM
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I have seen the worst pilots that should be let go, but because they had great attitudes and everyone liked
Them, they were given tons of re-trains and finally for through, so in my opinion attitude is everything.
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