That's weird I just got it as well. What is your erj class date?

 

April 16 is my class date. I'm relieved to know i'm still in the system. I was starting to worry. Does anyone know when a newbie-hire gets information about training? Like where to show up, for example.

 

Anyone know how many FOs we've hired since the merge?

 

Crj side is about 150. I dont know about erj but if i had to ballpark it I'd say atleast twice that if not 3-4 times more.

 

I heard about that as well. I call bs. If anyone would commute suicide then it'll be regional FO's. No upgrade in sight, furloughed many times, never home, don't bring enough money home, wife/husband complaining, 100k in loans, did I miss anything??

But seriously, if you're really depressed, there are many ways to reach out. Family, friends, community, churches, etc...

Remember it's just a job. Most pilots I know are smart individuals that can succeed in other fields. A lot of people went through a career change to become a pilot, has the option to go back to their old careers.

We come on APC to vent and relieve stress. Or flame and entertain. Whatever works for ya.

We have AA pilots and FAs commuting suicide, JetBlue capt going nuts on flight, what the heck is going on? Let's keep an eye out for each other. Try not to throw your fellow colleague under the bus even thought you might move up a number. Help others, as I'm sure there will be times when you will need some help yourself.

Sermon over. Carry on

 

You know if it is a sure deal that all FO's hired after the merge will be stapled to the bottom of our seniority list?

 

Without question. We took the snapshot a long time ago. You will go behind the most junior pilot on the combined list. My guess as to how the sen integration will go...

based on snapshot.
3 year fences on equipment.

1.snapshot list combined with relative seniority
2.All xjt furloughs at the time after all actives at the time.
3. All New hire pilots after all furloughs recalls

** just my guess based on recent merger history... I'm sure people will argue one way or the other based on equipment size, doh etc... this is about the only fair way to do it imho... either way, my guess is that we wont be combined for a long long time and by then we probably wont be at the company...

 

I won't, I've been here for 5 years, but I see what you're saying. I just see a lot of hiring going on over there and would hate to see all them incorporated into our single list negotiation.

 

Man I hope not a three year fence...

 

No one knows for sure about the fence but it will probably be negotiated to avoid the Pinnacle/Mesabe/Colgan mess. I could see it being a yr + seat lock and/or just an upgrade fence. I am really hoping both sides come to an agreement instead of going to arbitration. I don't see it being too difficult as long as one side doesn't try and get greedy. I could see them allowing the junior FO's the ability to trade to open vacant positions within a year.