Pilots interested in working at RAH
03-19-2012 | 05:27 AM
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I agree - $100,000 today isn't the $100,000 of yesteryear.
At the same time - saying hat a $100,000 is "nothing" nowdays.....well I know plenty of people living good lives and making under $100,000. Maybe that depends on how many toys one thinks s/he ought to have in the garage.
Is it your contention, in regards to the post and my response, that the highest paid legacy Captain is only making $100,000-120,000/year?
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03-19-2012 | 05:38 AM
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About a year ago, I was in the CHQ new-hire class. Day 1 and there were 2 guys who were no-shows. One guy left near the end of indoc and I left at the end of indoc for a better opportunity. I later found out that 4 guys did not make it through the end of sim for whatever reasons. 8 out of a class of 18 gone...not good.
03-19-2012 | 05:38 AM
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Hot mama, god is only capitalized if you are specifically speaking of a certain god, making it a proper noun. If you are using a generic , god awful, godd$&n, etc... No need to capitalize. As for Sharky, he's a great guy, went to college together, glad to see he is doing well and actually getting paid more a year than the tuition was...I on the other hand began my 6th year with RAH today. I'm still an FO, and make less than the tuition at college was.
03-19-2012 | 06:02 AM
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Hot mama, god is only capitalized if you are specifically speaking of a certain god, making it a proper noun. If you are using a generic , god awful, godd$&n, etc... No need to capitalize. As for Sharky, he's a great guy, went to college together, glad to see he is doing well and actually getting paid more a year than the tuition was...I on the other hand began my 6th year with RAH today. I'm still an FO, and make less than the tuition at college was.
I hope you make Captain soon, or get the job that you ultimately want.
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03-19-2012 | 07:38 AM
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If you plan to work at a Republic Airways Holdings carrier, this will include Chautauqua, Republic, and Shuttle Airlines that all operate under the same (expired in 2007) contract and same payscale/work rules under one seniority list. To those interested in working here, the link below will give you another tool to use in making your decision to come here. Just trying to keep this topic visible to those who may be doing the job hunt. Doesn't help me to dissuade folks, but from one pilot to another, you should know what your getting yourself into if you decide to come here.
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Read and heed guys! There is a great wealth of factual information of life here at RAH. The only thing I would add is the fact that this company has furloughd pilots three out of the previous four consecutive years. The ONLY reason there were no 'imposed' furloughs in 2011 was due to the pilot group taking voluntary furloughs, if only to escape this place for a few months. Be prepared to be treated like seasonal migrant workers here as displacements are a frequent and regular occurance as well as sitting reserve away from your base/domicile. If you can afford to be furloughd in the fall and work in the spring and summer, then this place is for you! Please gather as much information as possible before quitting a paying job to come here.
Best of luck everybody!!!
RAH Contract NOW! | Teamsters Local 357
Read and heed guys! There is a great wealth of factual information of life here at RAH. The only thing I would add is the fact that this company has furloughd pilots three out of the previous four consecutive years. The ONLY reason there were no 'imposed' furloughs in 2011 was due to the pilot group taking voluntary furloughs, if only to escape this place for a few months. Be prepared to be treated like seasonal migrant workers here as displacements are a frequent and regular occurance as well as sitting reserve away from your base/domicile. If you can afford to be furloughd in the fall and work in the spring and summer, then this place is for you! Please gather as much information as possible before quitting a paying job to come here.
Best of luck everybody!!!
Because I believe this is EXACTLY what AMR wants to do on their property. They want an operation flying E-jets like this with the same compensation levels. The worst part is that the "mainline interview" will likely be few and far between because as this type of operation proliferates, mainline shrinks as more of that flying gets taken over by this flying.
Under a staggared contract whipsaw scenario, pilot compensation will always be ratched at or below where it is at any given time. This is bad for ALL pilots, both current legacy, present senior regional and current junior regional/hopeful legacy. In effect, a jail sentance with no parole date.
If this is the future for the UAL, DAL and AA networks, what's left ?
03-19-2012 | 07:48 AM
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With the twice exception of not capitalizing God, your post was spot on with regards to this industry and the delusion that newbies have of the "legacy" carriers. The glory is gone and ain't(yes it IS a word) coming back. eg, I make more at my longevity as an fo than a captain does at DL for similar equip. This is not a shot at anyone as I am just stating a fact. Take heed all those sjs folks who still think that there is a pot of gold waiting for you. Fwiw, I don't expect my current pay to last either.
You are right about that..... It's going to continue to go UP!
03-19-2012 | 08:52 AM
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You can probably leave the 135 crowd out of looking at most regionals. We aren't as desparate as you think. I make more than many senior FO's and have little desire to test the reginal waters for commuting and a 24K Job when I make nearly twice that. Hopefully there will be some real movement and you can fight for a better contract. At this point the corporate side looks a lot more appealing (to me anyway). Thankfully I'm comfortable where I'm at and like working for and with the people I do so I'm in no hurry to change unless a good opportunity presents itself.
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03-19-2012 | 09:23 AM
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$120,000 isn't WELL INTO which is why I specifically stated the phrase in my post.
I agree - $100,000 today isn't the $100,000 of yesteryear.
At the same time - saying hat a $100,000 is "nothing" nowdays.....well I know plenty of people living good lives and making under $100,000. Maybe that depends on how many toys one thinks s/he ought to have in the garage.
Is it your contention, in regards to the post and my response, that the highest paid legacy Captain is only making $100,000-120,000/year?
USMCFLYR
I agree - $100,000 today isn't the $100,000 of yesteryear.
At the same time - saying hat a $100,000 is "nothing" nowdays.....well I know plenty of people living good lives and making under $100,000. Maybe that depends on how many toys one thinks s/he ought to have in the garage.
Is it your contention, in regards to the post and my response, that the highest paid legacy Captain is only making $100,000-120,000/year?
USMCFLYR
03-19-2012 | 10:32 AM
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No, I'm just saying that many many pilots are flying for **** wages and working conditions. $120,000 for a guy driving a phone truck should put things into perspective. As far as how many toys inconcerned, that's a matter of opinion. At the end of the day, why would you waste your time and money flying when the phone guy is making six figures?
A master plumber can make a KILLING for example!
Personally though I don't want to be a plumber.
Skilled trades and business ownership (should it work out) are hot items right now. Of course the business side can be as much of a crap shoot as any other profession (or gambling). A failed business can ruin you financially or at least put you back on your heels for a LONG time. I have family members going through that scenario right now and it is hard to watch. Great at the job, not so great at the business side of the house.
I certainly wouldn't argue with the fact that many pilots are working for crappy wages and poor working conditions, but my point was made to a poster pointing to the highest a legacy CA would EVER make; and I just don't think that amoount is peanuts.
As far as toys being concerned, that is a matter of opinion absolutely - just as much as saying that $100,000 is nothing is certainly a matter of opinion.
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