The Chow

What if it says Frontier? I'm not trying to stir the pot but have seen a couple of these planes at Delta gates from time to time.

Wingtips

I have seen Alaska planes and JB planes at AA gates too.

What

A few post back we were discussing what equipment was allowed and how much was allowed to be flown, I came across this today and though I would share it. Some of the guys who have better knowledge on please chime in!

Departures by Equipment Type, July 2011

Airline Under 50 seats 51-88 seats 89-129 seats 130 seats or more
Delta--------------38%```````````20%```````````7%```````````35%
American---------35%```````````12%```````````0%```````````53%
United------------48%```````````15%```````````9%```````````28%
US Airways------39%```````````21%```````````15%``````````25%

When looking at this numbers if one take into account Airline size with AA being the 3rd larges this would mean that even if AA was going to get to US Airway 21% airframes between 51-88 seats they could only get give or take 140 airframes in the 51-88 seat category per current departures! My math might be fuzzy so please someone chime in.


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MR JT8D

Like I said before, " The 50 seat RJ is dead."

gettinbumped

UAL does not have 76 seat scope relief. And as you know, there is no chance of greater than 70 seat scope relief coming.

What

Nobody is making a 50 seater, you are correct! 50 seaters are being parked, you are also correct but it's far from being dead. How can the airlines afford to park almost 1,000 airplanes over night. These airplanes are still making money, they are not making as much as they used to at some point but apparently there isn't a better option considering SCOPE as well as other things!

Airways 133
Delta 242
American 216
United 342

MR JT8D

It's the beginning of the end. Rumors has it that the CAL/UAL guys want the larger Embraer flying on their end with the next contract.

babs

Explain to me how that's a bad thing...

What

This is a great thing, but one thing is to want and other is to what they will get away with! AA pilots want all flying above 50 seats and AMR management wants to outsource all flying under 89 seats. Hope it happens but it will take drastic changes in the industry for mainline management to allow insourcing!