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Old 03-31-2012 | 07:03 PM
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If there are 3 Q400 in ALB and 1 in YYZ, (who knows about IAD/CLE/IAH), how many are actually flying? No wonder we are losing money.
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Old 03-31-2012 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Wingtips
I wonder what Great Lakes will do when the ATP rule hits, who in their right mind with 1500 hours and an ATP would go fly for 13,900/yr!!
Probably the same fools flying for $21,000 a year now.

Career progression has been stagnant for years. I just can't understand why anyone would want to spend all the time and money to become employable by a regional anymore. F.O. pay sucks no matter where you end up and captain pay is only slightly less sucky. There are thousands and thousands of guys with the magical 1000 turbine PIC and still are slaving away at the regionals. The "shortage" may come to fruition, but it will never be for the majors. Even the majors pay isn't anything worth getting excited over particularly when you factor in how many years you'll waste trying to get to those upper pay rates.

I would like to believe this industry will get better, but I have seen no evidence of the glory days returning. This is now a mediocre job with mediocre pay. I wish my company would allow me to take a leave for a while so I could try out a new career without having to give up my seniority. I would have no qualms about leaving if I could find a new career that suited me. This job hasn't been worth it for quite some time.

I am terribly sorry for the things going on at Eagle and Pinnacle. I hope everyone who ends up on the street finds themselves in a better place. Sometimes I want to get fired or furloughed just so I don't have to agonize about weather or not to stick it out in aviation.

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Old 03-31-2012 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 9easy
If there are 3 Q400 in ALB and 1 in YYZ, (who knows about IAD/CLE/IAH), how many are actually flying? No wonder we are losing money.

They arn't "in" albany yet. They were only tagged in the mx side of FTweb as "must RON ALB lease return" It doesn't actually mean they were there. One of the repo's from IAD to ALB tonight got canceled, and the plane reassigned to other flying.

We seem to have a few down for MX at all times. I know wer just turned a bunch of the classics though their Heavy checks... combinded with abandoning the first class reconfig, it makes sense that we return the extras
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Old 03-31-2012 | 08:26 PM
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Hopefully this will ease everyone's concerns slightly. One of the aircraft tagged as "MUST RON ALB" will be re-entering service on Monday morning making up the 5:40AM to IAD. The two that are either listed as LEASE BACK and MUST RON/PAINT are Saabs.

All items subject to change, of course.
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Old 03-31-2012 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Bankruptcy on Tuesday.


hahaha
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Old 03-31-2012 | 08:55 PM
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Having been through the ACA/Independence and Comair debacles, I would just like to offer this note. Whatever happens is completely beyond your control at this point. It's best, in my opinion, to simply work on improving your individual situation to the best of your ability by polishing up the resume, cleaning up finances, brushing up on interview knowledge, and keeping your family and loved ones in the loop about possible contingencies. Participating in the rumor mill, while seemingly harmless, only adds to stress and anxiety in your life and is the reason I stopped hanging out in the crewroom during my last six months or so at Comair. Just my unsolicited $.02, so take it with a grain of salt.

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Old 04-01-2012 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
Probably the same fools flying for $21,000 a year now.

Career progression has been stagnant for years. I just can't understand why anyone would want to spend all the time and money to become employable by a regional anymore. F.O. pay sucks no matter where you end up and captain pay is only slightly less sucky. There are thousands and thousands of guys with the magical 1000 turbine PIC and still are slaving away at the regionals. The "shortage" may come to fruition, but it will never be for the majors. Even the majors pay isn't anything worth getting excited over particularly when you factor in how many years you'll waste trying to get to those upper pay rates.

I would like to believe this industry will get better, but I have seen no evidence of the glory days returning. This is now a mediocre job with mediocre pay. I wish my company would allow me to take a leave for a while so I could try out a new career without having to give up my seniority. I would have no qualms about leaving if I could find a new career that suited me. This job hasn't been worth it for quite some time.

I am terribly sorry for the things going on at Eagle and Pinnacle. I hope everyone who ends up on the street finds themselves in a better place. Sometimes I want to get fired or furloughed just so I don't have to agonize about weather or not to stick it out in aviation.
Never truer words spoken.......
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Old 04-01-2012 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
I am terribly sorry for the things going on at Eagle and Pinnacle. I hope everyone who ends up on the street finds themselves in a better place. Sometimes I want to get fired or furloughed just so I don't have to agonize about weather or not to stick it out in aviation.
If you dont like your job just quit man. Go back to school or get a job with a charter company. No reason to stay doing something that makes you miserable.
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Old 04-01-2012 | 10:21 AM
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What's going on with this 4-1 sick out? Didn't happen
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Old 04-01-2012 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
What's going on with this 4-1 sick out? Didn't happen
I think it was a double April fools joke, the sick out joke was actually a joke in itself, thus creating a double negative making it positive aka never was gonna happen.
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