I'm relatively new to 121 and just busted my first one. I've never busted any check rides before including my 121 initial. I understand that it's a "checking event", but my question is if most 121 employers consider this to be just as negative as a failure for a rating or certificate. Obviously I'm new to this stuff. Thanks.

Edit: for clarification, this was during "recurrent training"

 

I think it's a PRIA porting event. FWIW. Sorry to hear about that tough.

 

Yep, it's a checkride failure and will be on your PRIA. I can't speak for how it will be viewed, but I believe it's grouped the same as other license checkride failures.

 

Thanks. Now I understand why they call it career day. 30 more years of this and not being able to screw up again...at least not without trouble getting hired somewhere else. How on earth do you not psych yourself out? lol

 

You aren't the first guy to bust a PC. If it's your only bust, it probably won't matter by the time you move on. Just make sure you can tell them what happened and what you learned from it when you interview next. Good luck, and chin up! It ain't the end of the world.

 

^^^^ what he said.

Don't let one bad PC get ya down. Everyone has bad days. Learn from it, move on, keep your chin up, and be honest if/when asked about it during any future interviews

 

What happened....any particular reason or just a bad day?

 

Just curious.....
It has been demonstrated in the past that companies will bust people on their rides in an effort to force them to stay employed at their airline. In fact the old TWA application used to ask (if you checked "yes" for the box indicating if you had a 121 recurrent failure) if it was at a particular regional carrier. You may be in that same situation.

Curious to know where you are at. Other than that, busted rides happen, especially in with the "new" FAA coming down so hard on all of us crappy regional pilots who are barely able to fly without crashing.

 

I had a buddy bust his proficency oral reccently...He then did a mock oral and passed with flying colors... He did a second oral and they busted him for questions most people wouldn't know.... I think he is screwed in his 121 career..Great pilot who never even got to touch the sim...Really sucks that a instructor has that much power over a persons career...what do you guys think?

 

The oral went well, no problems. There was a miscommunication between myself and the check airman acting as PM. (Another one was actually giving the ride). The PM told me he was going to deactivate certain deice items, while leaving others still on. I was doing something else and he had the aircraft at the time. I looked up and acknowledged what he did. The CA in the back only heard part of this and thought that I had thoughtlessly left certain items on when they were not required anymore. He then gave me a failure where one of the abnormal checklist items specifically referenced the one piece of deice equipment that the PM had "forgotten" to turn off. We were going to be descending right back into icing, so when I got to the conditional statement in the checklist I interpreted it as "if you are using it" vs. "if it is required by conditions". The latter is what it actually said, so I can understand why the check airman wasn't satisfied with the procedure. What bothers me is that the PM told me he was leaving items on, and the check airman never heard him. (this part was clarified after I was failed) Despite what happened, I know there is no recourse or going back. I'm just wondering how this affects me going forward, and as per my original question, if a PC failure is seen as just as bad or worse than a pt91 bust to a potential employer.