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04-15-2012 | 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by todd1200

I can't believe so many people are against offering preferential interviews to furloughed 121 pilots. No one is advocating disregarding a person's attitude during the hiring process -- just taking a look at furloughed guys first. Seems like common professional courtesy and just general common sense.

Seriously, where do you guys get this? Who in this entire thread has indicated that they do not want preferential hiring for furloughed 121 guys?
We are more then happy to offer preferential hiring for them, and would be happy to give you guys a shot at the job first!

Just don't come to our company, and after 3 months b*tch about the pay/contract and company and such! I'm saying this, because during the last round of furloughs a few years ago, guys were doing just that! That is all we were getting at!

04-15-2012 | 02:06 PM

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Herb Flemmming

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How long does this great CFI attitude last once they get to the regionals?

04-15-2012 | 02:38 PM

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jayray

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Originally Posted by camba0a6

A pilot that doesn't complain? Does such a thing exist?

04-15-2012 | 03:05 PM

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A pilot that doesn't complain? Does such a thing exist?

Ha..that's true! Well, by all means complain about the normal stuff, just don't complain about how much better your last company was!

04-15-2012 | 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by camba0a6

Ha..that's true! Well, by all means complain about the normal stuff, just don't complain about how much better your last company was!

I don't think anyone from Pinnacle s going to sy how great our company was.

04-15-2012 | 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Herb Flemmming

How long does this great CFI attitude last once they get to the regionals?

Six months on the line give or take. Effects of Kool-aid wear off and jets begin to seem a lot less shiny.

04-15-2012 | 04:35 PM

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I don't think anyone from Pinnacle s going to sy how great our company was.

You'd be surprised, I had guys from Trans States who thought TSA was the Sh*t..lol!

04-15-2012 | 05:11 PM

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It will be hard to beat Eagles work rules right now. If things play out like you all are thinking it may, then your going to have a few 100 or 1000 guys coming around that will tell you how awesome Eagle use to be.

04-16-2012 | 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadHead

I guess you must have been born with 121 airline experience.

I fourth this statement, a little humility can go a long way.
I'm all for helping furloughed 121 pilots, but there's no reason to crap on lesser experienced pilots.

Nope, I agree. No reason. However, around '07 I remember a flight student who had no desire to get a CFI because all she needed was her multi to get a job at a regional. Sad, I learned a lot as a CFI and plan on always keeping it current.

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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

When I was working as a CFI, we had more than one furloughed RJ, ERJ and other equipment FO that came to work for our flight training operation after their airline downsized. Common sense, proficiency, understanding of aerodynamics, technical ability and airmanship are not a given byproduct of airline FO training or experience.

This industry keeps shooting itself in the foot constantly.

Agreed, I probably was at my sharpest academically as a CFI, however,I try to hit the books,attend FAA seminars,listen to other pilots and always be open to learn.
This industry keeps shooting itself in the foot constantly.[/QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by Jamers

Ok, so everyone can agree that all CFIs have great attitudes and all Furloughed RJ guys have horrible attitudes. Gotcha.

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Originally Posted by The Juice

This Captain wouldn't.

This just drips with irony. I love how someone can cay "always hire a furloughed regional pilot over an instructor," but that same person would be livid if Majors only hired furloughed mainline guys before ever hiring a qualified 121 regional pilot.

I believe the tread addresses preferential in terms of getting the interview,not the job is yours guaranteed.

"but but but, I have 200 hours 121 experience, how can any non 121 guy be as awesome as me?"

...get over yourself

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Originally Posted by N2Core

An interview is just an interview... Getting the actual job is something else.

Exactly. I am always glad to see a pilot from Chicago Express who was let go currently working and picked up by another carrier/operator. I am happy for them personally that they landed on their feet.

I also agree that Furloughed = No Job and CFI = A Job (and probably making more money too.).

SWA requires 1000 TPIC and I remember Air Tran requiring 500 121 PIC,so experience does matter,I mean, this is a profession of ratings/hours/logbooks/currency right?

I just want our profession to take care of our own. Attitude is not mutually exclusive to CFI/121/91K/135 et al.

Be professional,humble,grateful and safe.