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04-27-2012 | 08:43 AM

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Mason32

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You should all be more concerned about them changing age 65 to 70.

04-27-2012 | 10:08 AM

#32

DD214

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Originally Posted by Mason32

You should all be more concerned about them changing age 65 to 70.

And who are you hearing this from?

04-27-2012 | 11:15 AM

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80ktsClamp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mason32

You should all be more concerned about them changing age 65 to 70.

Speaking of no logical thought, we have this post as a prime example.

04-27-2012 | 11:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mason32

You should all be more concerned about them changing age 65 to 70.

About as much as I worry getting devoured by a duck.

04-27-2012 | 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MusicPilot

If you got your written prior to working at a 121, 125, or 135 carrier, then you have to retake the written again.

This is incorrect. I took my ATP written in March of 2008. This was prior to getting hired at Pinnacle because it was required for the interview. I quit Pinnacle in December to fly single pilot in a Citation Mustang. I did my training at Flight Safety and it was determined that I did not need to retake my written. Reason was because I was currently employed by a Part 135 company and was in their PIC training.

Read the regulation that was already posted in this thread. No where does it say that you had to be employed when taking the written. It doesn't even say that you can't leave one company for another. You only have to be "employed as a flight crewmember by a certificate holder under part 121, 125, or 135 of this chapter at the time of the practical test."

04-27-2012 | 03:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MusicPilot

If you got your written prior to working at a 121, 125, or 135 carrier, then you have to retake the written again.

100% Totally Wrong.

Am I being abrupt here? Maybe. But it's possible that somebody has already signed up to spend 12 hours and $350 that they did not need to based on what you posted.

However...on this note the previous discussion about the language allowing use of an expired written at a 121 operator appears correct: It only applies to actual CA upgrade. An FO who is just getting an ATP and not completing PIC training would need a current written (within 24 months). The FAA did not really intend for this to happen, it probably just never occurred to them when they did the new reg. Sucks, but there it is.

I know some airlines have already handed out FO ATP's...I bet some of those had expired writtens and eventually the FAA will circle back around and fix that. I bet some folks will getting a letter in the mail.

04-27-2012 | 03:41 PM

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Forgive me, but I'm not understanding what can and can't be done with an expired ATP written.

I took the ATP written in 2007, but I have yet to be employed at a 121 operator.

If I were hired tomorrow by a 121 operation, would my expired test be available for use, or must I retake it since it has expired and I've not been employed by a 121?

Also, if an airline says I must have the ATP written completed to be eligible for employment, would my expired one count or would I need to take it again.