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drrhythm2 05-07-2012 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1183322)
need to get you guys figured out since they want to take on AA feed.

They who? AMR or Skywest management? I'm all for more flying, though I hate to hurt pilots at Eagle.

I think management's desire to get this done is giving us some amount of leverage. Hopefully it will work out for the best.

PeezDog 05-07-2012 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Vertisch (Post 1178898)
So what do we do about this? What do we need to do to get proper representation?

Vote no on anything that's unfair or not to your liking. It doesn't matter what TA they get for us, if the majority votes no, it doesn't pass. No matter how many super senior guys you think there are, or what the union tries to sell you. There's definitely enough FO's, and reserve CA's to have veto power over the those senior guys. Our representation is ourselves. I would hope that everyone will would consider whats fair for everyone, not just themselves, but we all know the history on that. This thread had some good discussion about that. http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...erve-rule.html

LateralFlyer 05-07-2012 12:20 PM

Does anyone know if hiring is still going steady? I have heard everything from still going strong, to hiring drawing down for the summer.

drrhythm2 05-07-2012 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by LateralFlyer (Post 1183561)
Does anyone know if hiring is still going steady? I have heard everything from still going strong, to hiring drawing down for the summer.

Last I heard there was at least 1 ERJ class in May, but I don't know anything beyond that. Brad's update came out today and oddly enough mentioned nothing about hiring, unlike last month when he said we had three classes. I can ask around but at this point I don't know. I'm sure it's not going to continue at 3 classes per month in the short term, though.

hickspilot 05-07-2012 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by drrhythm2 (Post 1183632)
Last I heard there was at least 1 ERJ class in May, but I don't know anything beyond that. Brad's update came out today and oddly enough mentioned nothing about hiring, unlike last month when he said we had three classes. I can ask around but at this point I don't know. I'm sure it's not going to continue at 3 classes per month in the short term, though.

HOw many in a class?

drrhythm2 05-07-2012 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by hickspilot (Post 1183634)
HOw many in a class?

To my knowledge classes have all been 16 pilots. Occasionally some are current employees coming off long term leaves of absence, so not necessarily all of the people in each class are new hires, but most are. There were three new hire classes in April for sure. I also know for sure that there are two upgrade classes in May. But I don't know about new hires this month. I'm asking.

If anyone reading this has a firm May class date at XJT, I'd like to hear it and what date you start.

hickspilot 05-07-2012 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by drrhythm2 (Post 1183639)
To my knowledge classes have all been 16 pilots. Occasionally some are current employees coming off long term leaves of absence, so not necessarily all of the people in each class are new hires, but most are. There were three new hire classes in April for sure. I also know for sure that there are two upgrade classes in May. But I don't know about new hires this month. I'm asking.

If anyone reading this has a firm May class date at XJT, I'd like to hear it and what date you start.

Do you know the washout rate? If not, no worries.

LateralFlyer 05-07-2012 01:51 PM

Thanks for the update. I'm in the market for a new carrier, and am trying to beat the rush.

drrhythm2 05-07-2012 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by hickspilot (Post 1183642)
Do you know the washout rate? If not, no worries.

No, but I don't think it's really high. Everyone in my class made it it through. We all bonded pretty well and worked together. We have "training gates" at different stages through the process. You get extra help and some extra chances if you bust one. From what I heard it's a "three strike" kind of thing.

Bottom line is that if you study and put in the work, there is no reason you shouldn't make it through the program.

hickspilot 05-07-2012 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by drrhythm2 (Post 1183660)
No, but I don't think it's really high. Everyone in my class made it it through. We all bonded pretty well and worked together. We have "training gates" at different stages through the process. You get extra help and some extra chances if you bust one. From what I heard it's a "three strike" kind of thing.

Bottom line is that if you study and put in the work, there is no reason you shouldn't make it through the program.

agreed. ive just heard they can ask some really obscure questions on the oral like how much do the tires weigh. Or why are there v1 cuts on 13,000 foot runways. (j/k)


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