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vtx531 05-08-2012 07:41 PM

Pinnacle Mangement Bankruptcy Proposal
 
-elimination of the minimum day
-management option to cap all pilot line awards at 75 hours
-a reduction in per diem
-10 days off for reserve pilots
-relief on maximum line ranges
-the virtual elimination of premium pay and open time
-more expensive and less favorable health insurance
-the elimination of ESL, premium sharing for loss of license and LTD
-greatly reduced 401(k) match
-decreased pay rates for all pilots: 5.8% reduction in for all Captains and CRJ900 FOs and 2.0% for all other FOs (which results in a combined rate for FOs)
-no across-the-board rate increases until 1/1/2014

PLUS much, much more.

They basically went line by line through the contract and made everything worse.

Fly782 05-08-2012 07:45 PM

Ouch I am so happy I left. I nominate Menke for TOTD, everyday.... Good luck guys

tom14cat14 05-08-2012 07:45 PM

wow that will make a lot of people bail if this were to happen. I might as well go to great lakes for an upgrade

whtever 05-08-2012 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by vtx531 (Post 1184600)
-elimination of the minimum day
-management option to cap all pilot line awards at 75 hours
-a reduction in per diem
-10 days off for reserve pilots
-relief on maximum line ranges
-the virtual elimination of premium pay and open time
-more expensive and less favorable health insurance
-the elimination of ESL, premium sharing for loss of license and LTD
-greatly reduced 401(k) match
-decreased pay rates for all pilots: 5.8% reduction in for all Captains and CRJ900 FOs and 2.0% for all other FOs (which results in a combined rate for FOs)
-no across-the-board rate increases until 1/1/2014

What an embarrassment. Disgusting.

Silver02ex 05-08-2012 08:08 PM

Am I reading this right, no open time at all? Not that I'm looking to pick anything up. I just wanted to make sure I'm reading it right. So everyone will be on 75 hrs pay.

Blkflyer 05-08-2012 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by tom14cat14 (Post 1184602)
wow that will make a lot of people bail if this were to happen. I might as well go to great lakes for an upgrade

Bail and go WHERE? Pilots for the most part are mostly all talk and will not take a stand If they are short and put trips in open time see how quick it gets picked up meanwhile their fellow pilots are out on the street. Management knows that pilots will sell their Mommas and their first born to get ahead.

SmitteyB 05-08-2012 08:12 PM

I was expecting much worse.

Remember this is their swing for the fences. You can thank Delta for strangling this organization into BK and eliminating two fleet types.

tomdaniels27 05-08-2012 08:13 PM

This is pretty deplorable. Glad I'm outta' here. My sincere apologies to those sr. folks staying. Being a 2nd year Colgan FO, I really don't have a horse in the race. Just glad I made it out. Good luck everyone!

Airsupport 05-08-2012 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by SmitteyB (Post 1184617)
I was expecting much worse.

Remember this is their swing for the fences.

I agree. This is where they could have gone for the kill and instead are just taking us out at the knees. I am 100% sure they will get less than half of what they are going for. No judge is going to go for this. It would put pinnacle at an unfair advantage to all its competitors. The judge has to look at our contract and then compare it to industry average to bring its cost more in line with that of the industry. Our "new and improved" contract was below industry average anyway the day we signed it so I am not to worried about the judge thinking we are raping this company for all its worth.

anthony210 05-08-2012 08:19 PM

I was expecting much worse...


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