What is Capt Sully taking about ?
05-20-2012 | 08:20 PM
#51
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Oh please!! CA Sully didn't even know the name of that airport when ditching into the Hudson (listen to the audio). It was an experience plus luck scenario. You're right though, all regional pilots are complete incompetent morons with no real experience and could never make an emergency decision. I hope this was sarcastic.
05-20-2012 | 08:30 PM
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Also, the B1900 guys are troopers. But my example was in an RJ. Doing, say, LIT-IAD with those deferrals is a whole different animal than a short hop in a 1900.
05-20-2012 | 08:44 PM
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Still at the regionals after 8 years, and I'll be the first to tell you there are huge differences in safety culture between mainline and most regionals. Training, level of standardization, safety programs, fatigue, sick call policy, punitive vs supportive management, levels of experience and maturity among crewmembers all vary drastically between the mainline and regional world. It's a fact, and a situation that is inevitable in a system that awards flying the lowest bidder. Mainline management tries to sweep it under the rug by pretending it's all the same system, and one of the very few voices bringing it to light is Capt. Sullenburger. Bravo!
The sooner this unholy two-tier apartheid system is destroyed, the better for all of us.
The sooner this unholy two-tier apartheid system is destroyed, the better for all of us.
05-20-2012 | 09:28 PM
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Still at the regionals after 8 years, and I'll be the first to tell you there are huge differences in safety culture between mainline and most regionals. Training, level of standardization, safety programs, fatigue, sick call policy, punitive vs supportive management, levels of experience and maturity among crewmembers all vary drastically between the mainline and regional world. It's a fact, and a situation that is inevitable in a system that awards flying the lowest bidder. Mainline management tries to sweep it under the rug by pretending it's all the same system, and one of the very few voices bringing it to light is Capt. Sullenburger. Bravo!
The sooner this unholy two-tier apartheid system is destroyed, the better for all of us.
The sooner this unholy two-tier apartheid system is destroyed, the better for all of us.
05-20-2012 | 09:56 PM
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Still at the regionals after 8 years, and I'll be the first to tell you there are huge differences in safety culture between mainline and most regionals. Training, level of standardization, safety programs, fatigue, sick call policy, punitive vs supportive management, levels of experience and maturity among crewmembers all vary drastically between the mainline and regional world. It's a fact, and a situation that is inevitable in a system that awards flying the lowest bidder. Mainline management tries to sweep it under the rug by pretending it's all the same system, and one of the very few voices bringing it to light is Capt. Sullenburger. Bravo!
The sooner this unholy two-tier apartheid system is destroyed, the better for all of us.
The sooner this unholy two-tier apartheid system is destroyed, the better for all of us.
It's also been pointed out that never does Sully attack the pilots of the regionals, he's going after the system and the corporate culture. We all know what tremendous shortcomings the various departments have at the regionals when it comes to safety. Pilots are relied upon to make up for that.
05-21-2012 | 05:25 AM
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That was just an example. The point is that when one looks at the whole ball of wax when it comes to the culture of safety at a regional vs. mainline, the deck is stacked against the regionals, relatively speaking.
05-21-2012 | 06:56 AM
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I can't help but wonder where the whole conversation on this thing would be if, instead of an Airbus 320, it had been a Chautauqua E145 or AWAC CRJ-200 flown by a 30 year old CA and 24 year old FO, that hit geese on takeoff from LGA and safely ditched in the Hudson River...
This was brought up to us by a check airman during a recent recurrent training, and it makes you think about it.
05-21-2012 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Many regional pilots do at least 2 out of 3 everyday. It is not forced, its flying a B-1900...except 5 legs is an easy day.
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