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skywatch 07-26-2012 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by BitterOHFO (Post 1235674)
I wonder if the almighty PresBo had a talk with Richard about putting 3000 more people on the street during an election year? Not going to help his job numbers!

Maybe we have a snowball's chance in hell that we will survive!

3000? Maybe two years ago. My guess is more like 1400.

BitterOHFO 07-26-2012 11:59 AM

Forgot where I heard the 3000 number. 1400 to 1500 is probably more realistic.

crazyjaydawg 07-26-2012 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by BitterOHFO (Post 1235704)
Forgot where I heard the 3000 number. 1400 to 1500 is probably more realistic.

1400 to 1500 would be noticed like a fart in the wind in the national unemployment numbers.

BitterOHFO 07-26-2012 02:39 PM

Word on the street in the crewroom. Announcement at 830 am tomorrow. Base managers just got out of a meeting and they didn't look too happy.

evilboy 07-26-2012 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by BitterOHFO (Post 1235751)
Word on the street in the crewroom. Announcement at 830 am tomorrow. Base managers just got out of a meeting and they didn't look too happy.

0830?!?!?....:confused:

That totally goes against their wussy ways to give those at end of closing on fridays and then run to their cars.
Let us know if you see armed guards around. That'll be a good indication it ain't gonna be pretty news.

samballs 07-26-2012 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by evilboy (Post 1235754)
0830?!?!?....:confused:

That totally goes against their wussy ways to give those at end of closing on fridays and then run to their cars.
Let us know if you see armed guards around. That'll be a good indication it ain't gonna be pretty news.

Better then the 6 yrs I was there. They always announced crap the night before thanksgiving

Terantious 07-26-2012 03:47 PM

So i heard extra security ordered at the GO and the terminal tomorrow...any truth to this?

Also a friend who is a million miler got a text on his phone that said if you have a flight on OH connection in the coming weeks check your flight before coming.

Wish you guys the best over there whatever the outcome of tonights meeting is.

yeah sure 07-26-2012 03:57 PM

Sorry you guys are going through this. It sucks to work for an airline like this...I know.

Boomer 07-26-2012 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by yeah sure (Post 1235795)
Sorry you guys are going through this. It sucks to work for an airline like this...I know.

Comair is still a pretty awesome airline.

It's the orders coming from ATL that makes it suck a$$.

Boomer 07-26-2012 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Terantious (Post 1235785)
Also a friend who is a million miler got a text on his phone...

Was the text from Delta?

crazyjaydawg 07-26-2012 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by samballs (Post 1235775)
Better then the 6 yrs I was there. They always announced crap the night before thanksgiving

At least it's not on an April Fool's Sunday. "Is this actually real?"

Spoilers 07-27-2012 03:14 AM

(Erlanger, Ky.) – Employees of Comair could learn the fate of their jobs and the future of the Erlanger-based airline Friday morning.
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The Delta Air Lines has been rumored to considering shutting down the regional subsidiary as no Comair flights have been scheduled in October. Comair has told its employees that Delta will announce the results of a strategic review by July 31.
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An announcement is planned by Delta officials at about 8:30 a.m. Friday.
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Comair employs over 800 people at the Cincinnati-Northern Kentucky International Airport. The carrier has about 1,600 total employees.
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If Delta does decide to close Comair, employees would have to be notified at least 60 days in advance.

Pilotguy143 07-27-2012 04:29 AM

Thnks for the memories. I'll miss flying with you all

DGFlyer03 07-27-2012 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by Pilotguy143 (Post 1235971)
Thnks for the memories. I'll miss flying with you all

Any news yet?

JonnyKnoxville 07-27-2012 04:36 AM

Comair to Cease Operations | Stock Market Summary for Today | NSDQ, NYSE and AMEX Stock Market Summaries | Chron.com | News, search and shopping from the Houston Chronicle

No significant changes to schedules or locations served for Delta customers

ATLANTA, July 27, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) today announced its subsidiary, Comair, Inc. will cease operations after Sept. 29, 2012.

In a memo issued today to the Officers and Directors of Delta Air Lines, Don Bornhorst, Senior Vice President of Delta Connection, said:

"While regional flying has and will remain a key component of Delta's network, customer expectations and the unit costs of regional flying have evolved. In response, Delta recently announced its plans to reduce the total number of regional jets in its network while adding more mainline flying. This includes reducing the number of 50-seat regional jets from nearly 350 aircraft to 125 or fewer in the upcoming years. As a result of this reduction and changes to its customer-focused business strategy, Delta has made the difficult decision to cease Comair's operations."

Ryan Gumm, President of Comair, communicated Delta's decision this morning to Comair employees in a memo, the full text of which is included below.

The discontinuation of Comair's operations will not result in any significant changes to Delta's network, which has enough flexibility to accommodate these changes. Currently, Comair accounts for approximately one percent of Delta's network capacity. There will be no disruption to customers and no significant adjustments to Delta's flight schedule or locations served. All customers who travel on the Delta network, whether on Delta Connection flights or mainline aircraft, can continue to make travel plans with Delta as they have in the past.

Cincinnati will continue to be an important market in Delta's worldwide network. Over the past several years, working with community leaders, Delta has right-sized capacity at Cincinnati to better match service to local passenger demand. Cincinnati is now a profitable market for Delta and the city continues to enjoy over 120 peak daily flights, with non-stop service to 49 destinations. No reductions in the number of Delta flights are planned at Cincinnati as a result of this decision.

To All Comair Employees
From Ryan Gumm, President
Subject Comair to Cease Operations
Date July 27, 2012

All,

Today, I am writing to let you know that Delta has made the difficult decision to cease Comair's operations after September 29, 2012.

Delta recently announced its intent to reduce the overall number of 50-seat regional jets in its network from nearly 350 to 125 or fewer in light of the significant changes in the economic and competitive conditions in the airline industry. We believed this announcement would have a negative impact on Comair because we operate some of the oldest 50-seat aircraft in the Delta Connection fleet, which also have the highest unit cost per flight hour. And, in fact, Delta has decided to remove the remaining 16 Comair 50-seaters from the Delta network, leaving Comair with only 28 aircraft in scheduled service. This further reduction of Comair's active fleet will only create higher unit costs, which equates to a business model that is no longer sustainable in this competitive regional environment.

I understand that today's news is very difficult and raises many questions for you and your family. Human Resources is prepared to directly assist you during this time. They will post a memo and other documents on the Human Resources Epic page to keep you informed of the assistance available and to help answer many of your questions. We will also have staff available over the weekend to answer questions if needed. If after reviewing the information on Epic you have any additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reach out to your departmental leadership as well.

The discontinuation of Comair's operations is in no way a failure or a reflection of your work – it is an unfortunate necessity due to the economic limitations of our aging aircraft, cost structure, the long-term outlook for 50-seat aircraft, and our challenging industry and economy. The quality of our operations has continued to be outstanding during our lengthy restructuring efforts, and I am honored to have had the opportunity to lead such a committed team. I am asking that each of you recognize the importance of remaining focused on safety and the job at hand as we continue operations throughout the wind-down period. Your continued commitment and your dedication to a safe and reliable operation is a testament to the professional team we have built here at Comair.

About Delta Air Lines
Delta Air Lines serves more than 160 million customers each year. During the past year, Delta was named domestic "Airline of the Year" by the readers of Travel Weekly magazine, was named the "Top Tech-Friendly U.S. Airline" by PCWorld magazine for its innovation in technology and won the Business Travel News Annual Airline Survey. With an industry-leading global network, Delta and the Delta Connection carriers offer service to nearly 350 destinations in 65 countries on six continents. Headquartered in Atlanta, Delta employs 80,000 employees worldwide and operates a mainline fleet of more than 700 aircraft. A founding member of the SkyTeam global alliance, Delta participates in the industry's leading trans-Atlantic joint venture with Air France-KLM and Alitalia. Including its worldwide alliance partners, Delta offers customers more than 13,000 daily flights, with hubs in Amsterdam, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Detroit, Memphis, Minneapolis-St. Paul, New York-LaGuardia, New York-JFK, Paris-Charles de Gaulle, Salt Lake City and Tokyo-Narita. The airline's service includes the SkyMiles frequent flier program, a world-class airline loyalty program; the award-winning BusinessElite service; and more than 50 Delta Sky Clubs in airports worldwide. Delta is investing more than $3 billion through 2013 in airport facilities and global products, services and technology to enhance the customer experience in the air and on the ground. Customers can check in for flights, print boarding passes, check bags and review flight status at delta.com.

SOURCE Delta Air Lines

JonnyKnoxville 07-27-2012 04:37 AM

Sorry guys...I had a great time flying with all of you. Please stay safe.

MunkyButtr 07-27-2012 04:41 AM

Fly safe guys and gals. Best of luck to all of you and your families.

ja2c 07-27-2012 04:42 AM

Sorry guys. Good luck to all you Comair folks.

Glofliser 07-27-2012 04:49 AM

Thank You all for the good memories. It has been a pleasure flying with all of you. Good Luck in he future

TristarJS30 07-27-2012 04:49 AM

Very sad news indeed. A great group of guys and an operation that taught me what it really meant to be a professional airline pilot, which is much more than I can say about the outfit I've been at since my furlough in 2009. Best of luck to you all. While I'm sure times will be tough and extremely uncertain, I can only imagine the relief of finally knowing it's all over.

It's a shame what Delta has done.

LoopingLear 07-27-2012 05:07 AM

This is a truly sad day. Best wishes to all folks involved.

rickair7777 07-27-2012 05:23 AM

Sorry to hear this people.

MusicPilot 07-27-2012 05:30 AM

For all of those interested, I can help get you to the front of the pack for interviews with Republic. PM me your contact info. I know CMH and IND are pretty junior right now. Many newhires are holding lines right out of the schoolhouse.

memphisbelle 07-27-2012 06:33 AM

So sad to hear this. Good luck, guys.

Emb170man 07-27-2012 06:42 AM

So sad to hear this, Comair was the place to be for so many years. If y'all need anything I can help with, don't hesitate to ask!

byebyeairlines 07-27-2012 06:54 AM

My thoughts and prayers are for all my former co-workers today. Good luck with your future endeavors.

RJCruzer007 07-27-2012 07:31 AM

My thoughts and prayers for the great employees of Comair. I have worked there for many years.

SHAME ON YOU DELTA EXECUTIVES!

Richard, your such a DORK. Go pound sand you piece of !$&%{

Slats 07-27-2012 07:55 AM

Guys I'm really sorry to hear about this. If you're looking for another opportunity SkyWest is currenlty hiring. If you'd like, pm me and I'll give you ther person to contact. Again, I am truly sorry...

block30 07-27-2012 08:27 AM

When is the announcement of who is getting the 7 and 900s? Gee, I wonder if the recipient will be Go Jets?

Sad! Comair pilots and FAs are tops in my book! Hard to stay classy in this industry! :mad:

evilboy 07-27-2012 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by RJCruzer007 (Post 1236082)
My thoughts and prayers for the great employees of Comair. I have worked there for many years.

SHAME ON YOU DELTA EXECUTIVES!

Richard, your such a DORK. Go pound sand you piece of !$&%{


Sir, Thank you very much.

Bucking Bar 07-27-2012 09:08 AM

Someone needs to write an appropriate history. But, as I recall Comair was probably the best run regional airline anywhere prior to their Delta acquisition. Comair lobbied manufacturers to build the RJ and were the first to operate the type in 1993.

Shares in Comair opened trading at $5 and split eight times on their way to nearly $40 a share. Comair topped a billion in revenue in the late 1990's.

As an ASA pilot then, Comair always impressed us with their operation. The way they engineered their stations and aircraft handling is IMHO unmatched even today in the "regional" business. When I asked our management "why can't we do things like they do" the response was "because excellence costs money."

Comair's crews have always been professional and polite in every dealing I've ever had with them personally. They've worked in an a tremendously adverse situation since 2001. I had always hoped Delta would treat their own asset better.

Good luck to Comair pilots. Don't let yourself be distracted these final days. Your airline has a good reputation. May your record remain clean and your resume shine. Hope to fly with some of you soon.

Bucking Bar 07-27-2012 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by RJCruzer007 (Post 1236082)
My thoughts and prayers for the great employees of Comair. I have worked there for many years.

SHAME ON YOU DELTA EXECUTIVES!

Delta pilots would do well to remember we are owned by the same management team.

Boomer 07-27-2012 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1236145)
...Good luck to Comair pilots. Don't let yourself be distracted these final days. Your airline has a good reputation. May your record remain clean and your resume shine. Hope to fly with some of you soon.

Thanks Bar, I also hope we fly together someday.

And I hope we're not surrounded by sand when we do. :)

D B Cooper 07-27-2012 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1236116)
When is the announcement of who is getting the 7 and 900s? Gee, I wonder if the recipient will be Go Jets?

Sad! Comair pilots and FAs are tops in my book! Hard to stay classy in this industry! :mad:

Landing in LGA yesterday we were behind a Go Jets 700. I was about to lose it when I saw the N***CA reg.
My deepest condolences to the employees of Comair.

bidnez 07-27-2012 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by D B Cooper (Post 1236170)
Landing in LGA yesterday we were behind a Go Jets 700. I was about to lose it when I saw the N***CA reg.
My deepest condolences to the employees of Comair.

Why were you about to "lose it"? I think there are enough pilots who have "lost it" lately. N***CA is all over the place, not just with GJ. You are likely to see many more planes operated by GoJet, perhaps you should check yourself into rehab now..

ShyGuy 07-27-2012 10:20 AM

Yeah, seriously. I remember flying at least two N***CA birds while at Pinnacle. It's the RJ shuffle by Delta.

NO Delta Connection carrier is safe, not even the precious and almighty Skywest.

Fly782 07-27-2012 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by yeah sure (Post 1235795)
Sorry you guys are going through this. It sucks to work for an airline like this...I know.


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1236188)
Yeah, seriously. I remember flying at least two N***CA birds while at Pinnacle. It's the RJ shuffle by Delta.

NO Delta Connection carrier is safe, not even the precious and almighty Skywest.

Dont tell Slats that

BARRELL RIDER 07-27-2012 10:48 AM

I remember about 4 years ago the company shipping off all of our new rj's to other delta connection carriers for the oldest planes in their fleet to cut costs. Now they are shutting down Comair because the fleet is too old. Great management! I took the early out because I was sick of being lied to. Any one know what happens to our flight benefits. Good luck on your job search. The Delta pilots must be thrilled to see such misery inflicted on Comair after all of our underpaid hard work for their airline!

GrUpGrDn 07-27-2012 11:15 AM

Bucking bar thank you.

fly4michelle 07-27-2012 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by D B Cooper (Post 1236170)
Landing in LGA yesterday we were behind a Go Jets 700. I was about to lose it when I saw the N***CA reg.
My deepest condolences to the employees of Comair.

Get a grip. Do some research before you post idiotic messages.


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