News Report: Comair getting shut down?
 

Do not know how credible the story is. It is an interesting, and sad, report. Comair was a multi billion dollar company, then Delta bought them.

I-Team: Comair shutting down?

The news report does NOT say that Comair is being shut down. It says that there are rumors of that among the work force but other outcomes/explantions are still possible.

Thread title is misleading.

(I by no means indicate that Comair's future is all Unicorns and Rainbows. Just that the thread title is incorrect and tiresome.)

"Delta has previously sold two of its wholly-owned regionals" - and those two regionals were ASA, Mesaba, and Compass.

"Comair was the only airline to operate from Concourse C" - the other only airlines to operate from Concourse C were ASA, Skywest, Shuttle America, and Chautauqua.

The potential strike in 2006 was in response to the 1113 motion, and Delta/Comair's BK judge sided with the company barring that from happening.

Other than that, pretty good reporting. If there is such a thing as good reporting.

And Freedom and even ACA a few times instead of at A.

I agree. The news story is what it is. News of Comair's demise has been greatly exaggerated in the past. Candidly, Delta should manage Comair better. Why deprive your own asset of growth? Why cut the schedules and cause further inefficiency? Why feed competitors at the expense of your own team?

If this isn't true then Delta should have immediately set the record straight. Is Delta in any sort of negotiations on the property? (honest question)

In negotiations with all three unions.

Pilot TA submitted by Comair mgmt to Delta (the real mgmt of Comair) for approval.
Mechanics close to an agreement.
FA's are the "sticking point"...

Not difficult to see what another explanation of all this might be...

News Reports Comair getting shut down.
 

Please close or change the title. Three 900 captains just hung themselves in ops before they even read the article. You have blood on your hands now.

I have to say... the news is saying it. Whether the news is accurate or not is certainly debatable, but to me the thread title is accurate. Is he said "Comair shutting down", that would be a different case entirely.

I hope you are not serious about the deaths!

me too!!! Could be true.

they changed it already. Looks better now.

the republic vultures are circling.

Thank you for the thread title adjustment!

this will probably get deleted but this pic goes will with this.....and I bet they are not the only ones.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../9/0073973.jpg

That thar's funny right there. And no, he's not serious. There is no place to hang one's self in the Comair crew room.

Back when I was at the regionals (2000) Comair (and Air Wisky) were the two regionals where you could go and have a career...

I wanted to go to Comair. Back then I figured if I never get my dream corporate job or a major job, I would'nt mind getting stuck at Comair for life.

times have certainly changed

One can only hope...

Why pay for such a senior pilot group? Delta's and Comair's most junior captain were hired the same year! If there is somebody cheaper, I'm sure Delta will find them.

It will be a sad day if this comes to pass. Good luck folks.

:( Comair folks have always treated me very well! Sad!!

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Delta management caused this. They managed Comair into oblivion by driving its costs and seniority up by continually shrinking it and failing to invest in it; thereby pi$$ing away over $1 billion that they paid for it.

you folks do know that comair made huge profits for 25 years and on the day DAL took total control, Comair started loosing money, loosing every year. Ever wonder why?

Actually not even remotely funny. That happened 2 different times while I was working at Comair.

To all of my Comair friends, I just spoke with a nameless source that had confirmed what we had all thought and suspected. I wanted to give all of you as much of a heads-up as possible. Comair will be making the announcement on July 31st. Their last day of operations will be September 30th.

The U.S. Marshals were briefed to disarm the Comair FFDO's to reduce the risk of one of them from potentially going postal.

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I felt that if I were still at Comair, I would want to know this information as soon as possible in order to plan accordingly.

I wish the best of luck to all of you.

Wow, good luck guys

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This industry blows. 2012 was supposed to be the year, Comair shutting the doors, Pinnacle bankrupt thus shutting down Colgan and AMR/Eagle in bankruptcy, it looks as bad as it ever has been.

Ts and Ps to those at Comair, awful situation.

It's weird that I am seeing this thread on a a couple forums....I haven't been on a computer in a week or so and yesterday I jumpseated with a comair guy, just through conversation he said he knew about the sep. 30th date. Good luck to you all...

What's weird is that it's the regional sector in the most turmoil. The majors for the most part are becoming or are profitable for the first time in a long time.

What a crazy industry

True, but one of em the guy has having phone sex with his GF(OH FLT ATT), and it went to far. He did an oooppps

The whole point of the regional business model...don't keep employees who become expensive.

Translation: Since people need more money as they acquire spouse, mortgage, kids, cars, etc the regional model cannot tolerate employees with high longevity (ie older)...especially when they insist on modestly comfortable compensation.

But this is great news for a kid with a newly minted aviation science degree and a bad case of SJS!

Wouldn't it make sense for every major airline to own and have one list with its regional? This to me would prevent a pilot group from becoming too expensive.

Or you can just contract out the flying to the lowest bidder and let them worry about their "expensive" pilot group.

Nooooo....

Siad pilot group would then

a) Organize and demand higher compensation, backed up with the threat of strike which would shut down ALL of that major's feed, or

b) Merge with the mainline pilot group and demand even higher compensation.

very good read as well:

IN FOCUS: Pending pilots deal highlights Delta's regional contracts

Anyone know the current fleet size and pilot group size? Not sure APC profile is accurate or not.

lets see, delta forced pinnacle into bk by withholding payments and forced them to cancel there contracts with other mainlines and delta has raped comair taken it down to where it is to shut down. so which group is it better to work for again, not owned or owned.

Being owned by or working under DAL has zero benefits. They will slaughter every regional carrier under that umbrella and force thousands of pilot out on the street, or out of the business altogether. But hey, they are getting 717's. So in the creation of those jobs, they've destroyed double at their partners.

I'm pretty sure years of inept, corrupt, and idiotic management at Pinnacle is what put them into bankruptcy.

............................. yeah .....

Think about it from a business standpoint. If I were a Regional owner, I'd shutdown and restart a subcontract airline every 7-10 years and I'd make sure my intentions were well known by all within my pilot group (& all labor). My hopes would be that they would get the hell out, thus keeping cost low.


Come on guys/gals, you're labor; you've given up control of your careers by becoming pilots. This is business, nothing personal. It’s what has happened time after time and occurs in every industry in the world.

All this flying we do as subcontractors (regionals) belongs to mainline, don’t like it? Get out, find something new. Become your own boss, move on.