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Old 09-14-2012 | 03:48 AM
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Was this really necessary.

Sorry Eagle guys for what is happening. Wish you guys the best of luck. This and a lot of other things are out of the control of a daily line pilot and I am sure if not all, most of you understand that. Hope that someday you guys will recover the flying. Good Luck.

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Old 09-14-2012 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
The last few posts show just how far this profession has fallen. It's now at the point the pawns don't even recognize their role on the chess board anymore and actually gleefully advocate the parasitic world they've been indoctrinated in. The regional industry will be an absolute dystopian nightmare in 5 years littered with drooling cannabalisic zombie-like dregs roaming the night in constant battle over each others scraps of flesh.

In fact, this horror show will be so fascinating, I think I'll be able to cancel my cable and watch it full-time.
Yeah, it kind of surprises me in a way too. But when you look at the caliber of people the airlines have been having to hire in the last few years, I guess it shouldn't. I even kind of felt bad when we (Eagle) took our ten airplanes back from TSA and caused them to furlough, and those were ours to begin with.

We've been proud to fly around with our actual company name painted on the plane and not in a little "operated by" note on the door. I guess we might as well forget about that and just revel in joining the rest of the subcontractor industry and start hoping to grab anybodies flying we can.
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Old 09-14-2012 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MAXforwardspeed
Try to understand this. Your airplanes will be painted in American EAGLE colors. NOT American Connection. That is an airline we worked hard many years for. So it's not just that your flying AA/AE passengers.

I know we got the airplanes from TranStates so maybe you will be joining our company and seniority list. Be sure our union is looking into this.

Try to understand your infecting a company many of us worked hard for.

So many regional pilots are dumb.

Originally Posted by eaglefly
The last few posts show just how far this profession has fallen. It's now at the point the pawns don't even recognize their role on the chess board anymore and actually gleefully advocate the parasitic world they've been indoctrinated in. The regional industry will be an absolute dystopian nightmare in 5 years littered with drooling cannabalisic zombie-like dregs roaming the night in constant battle over each others scraps of flesh.

In fact, this horror show will be so fascinating, I think I'll be able to cancel my cable and watch it full-time.
Exhibit B.

Anyhow, remind me how many Eagle pilots are "loosing" their jobs because xjet pilots get to keep theirs?
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Old 09-14-2012 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver

So many regional pilots are dumb.



Exhibit B.

Anyhow, remind me how many Eagle pilots are "loosing" their jobs because xjet pilots get to keep theirs?
While these posts may be slightly overly dramatic, the fact that you can't see the big picture leads me to believe that you are one of those regional pilots you speak so highly of.
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Old 09-14-2012 | 05:17 AM
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All this hostility I'm thinking you guys ought to have a little battle alla anchorman!

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Old 09-14-2012 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MatchPoint

Flame all you want but historically SkyWest has been the most successful subcontractor out there.
Yeap, now you're subcontracting REGIONAL flying. Never thought I 'd see the day where regionals were flying for other regionals. American Airlines operated by American Eagle operated by SkyWest operated by ExpressJet. Priceless.
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Old 09-14-2012 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by babs
While these posts may be slightly overly dramatic, the fact that you can't see the big picture leads me to believe that you are one of those regional pilots you speak so highly of.
Exactly.

He assumes the first flash of the camera is the whole picture. In order for job losses to occur, first you must have someone in place to make that happen. He'll eventually be in the same boat if he already hasn't and then we'll see if still finds that camera flash so dazzling.

I'll bet not and will be complaining like Tara Reid running from the paparazzi.
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Old 09-14-2012 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MunkyButtr
Yeap, now you're subcontracting REGIONAL flying. Never thought I 'd see the day where regionals were flying for other regionals. American Airlines operated by American Eagle operated by SkyWest operated by ExpressJet. Priceless.
Get used to it, as it is the future. Periodically, every 4-5 years you will have to be willing to roll your compensation back to keep your job, upgrade, airplanes, etc.

The whipsaw model will be THE model for the regional industry.
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Old 09-14-2012 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Get used to it, as it is the future. Periodically, every 4-5 years you will have to be willing to roll your compensation back to keep your job, upgrade, airplanes, etc.

The whipsaw model will be THE model for the regional industry.
And it's an unsustainable model. Even Skywest's CEO is quoted stating that they've had to turn down flying because they lose money on it. The regionals continue to cut each others throats just to win the contracts. I'm not sure they can just do the BK, clean slate, rinse cycle repeatedly just to maintain the business. The regionals are at a turning point, & the business model is changing drastically IMO.
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Old 09-14-2012 | 06:14 AM
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My apologies to all Eagle pilots that are upset by this, but welcome to the world. If ASA did not get this CPA, they would be furloughing in the near future- so if we feel happy or relieved by the news , perhaps you can understand why. And yes, some might be really happy, but for those displaced out of DFW 8 or 9 years ago and commuting, this is a little bit of very good news.

Some of you talk like you are the only pilots to ever face a bad deal.

We have had furloughs, we have had multiple base closings and displacements. Upgrades are 7yrs and will continue to climb. We have seen "our" flying get underbid by RAH, PCL, G7, Etc. This is the world we have lived in since about 2006. While I am sorry that you have to now face the SUCK that is the regional airline model after so many years of being isolated from the whipsaw, I dont think this is the last bit of bad news you will get in your time at AE. Sorry.
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