Its Official...XJT CrJ Base In DFW For AA
09-13-2012 | 07:47 AM
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thanks, I realized it pasted wrong.
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http://www.****************/forum/at...6&d=1347509462
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its talk airline dot com
09-13-2012 | 09:59 AM
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I know what you're saying, but that is business and life. I left Comair and am now flying for ExpressJet. Am I benefiting from my own loss?
I don't mean to sound harsh, but seriously, that's how contractors work.
If one paving company loses a city contract to another paving company, so be it. If one taxi company loses an airline crew contract to another taxi company, so be it.
Sucks for 1 side and not for another.
I don't mean to sound harsh, but seriously, that's how contractors work.
If one paving company loses a city contract to another paving company, so be it. If one taxi company loses an airline crew contract to another taxi company, so be it.
Sucks for 1 side and not for another.
What is a new phenomenon is a regional impersonating another regional to obtain their mainline flying. This is a new low for the regionals.
If it said "American Eagle Airlines Express" on the side of the planes I'd be less concerned. Being able to separate the company name from those who actually work there is a dangerous door to open.
Next they will simply paint American Airlines on the side of the planes, or Delta Airlines. This will establish a new precedent inthe industry.
09-13-2012 | 10:16 AM
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Bad link, Rick.
In plain English:
Operating Profit (or loss) in Millions:
Skywest -
2006 - 167,641
2007 - 182,175
2008 - 140,592
2009 - 140,036
2010 - 144,687
2011 - 90,552
AE-
2006 - 185,903
2007 - 185,713
2008 - 86,483
2009 - 152,222
2010 - 152,398
2011 - 93,875
Regional Airlines Salaries (in millions):
Skywest -
2006 - 431,611
2007 - 511,317
2008 - 515,580
2009 - 503,458
2010 - 541,557
2011 - 440,000
AE -
2006 - 486,653
2007 - 505,484
2008 - 488,819
2009 - 478,664
2010 - 505,605
2011 - 411,779
Skywest and AE have nearly identical profits and salaries over the past five years.
Skywest had the highest Salary burden in the Regional Airline business, while AE had the second highest.
AE had the highest Operating profit in the Regional Airline business, and Skywest had gthe second highest Operating Profit.
Both did quite well, DESPITE their high salary burdens.
In plain English:
Operating Profit (or loss) in Millions:
Skywest -
2006 - 167,641
2007 - 182,175
2008 - 140,592
2009 - 140,036
2010 - 144,687
2011 - 90,552
AE-
2006 - 185,903
2007 - 185,713
2008 - 86,483
2009 - 152,222
2010 - 152,398
2011 - 93,875
Regional Airlines Salaries (in millions):
Skywest -
2006 - 431,611
2007 - 511,317
2008 - 515,580
2009 - 503,458
2010 - 541,557
2011 - 440,000
AE -
2006 - 486,653
2007 - 505,484
2008 - 488,819
2009 - 478,664
2010 - 505,605
2011 - 411,779
Skywest and AE have nearly identical profits and salaries over the past five years.
Skywest had the highest Salary burden in the Regional Airline business, while AE had the second highest.
AE had the highest Operating profit in the Regional Airline business, and Skywest had gthe second highest Operating Profit.
Both did quite well, DESPITE their high salary burdens.
09-13-2012 | 10:44 AM
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Bad link, Rick.
In plain English:
Operating Profit (or loss) in Millions:
Skywest -
2006 - 167,641
2007 - 182,175
2008 - 140,592
2009 - 140,036
2010 - 144,687
2011 - 90,552
AE-
2006 - 185,903
2007 - 185,713
2008 - 86,483
2009 - 152,222
2010 - 152,398
2011 - 93,875
Regional Airlines Salaries (in millions):
Skywest -
2006 - 431,611
2007 - 511,317
2008 - 515,580
2009 - 503,458
2010 - 541,557
2011 - 440,000
AE -
2006 - 486,653
2007 - 505,484
2008 - 488,819
2009 - 478,664
2010 - 505,605
2011 - 411,779
Skywest and AE have nearly identical profits and salaries over the past five years.
Skywest had the highest Salary burden in the Regional Airline business, while AE had the second highest.
AE had the highest Operating profit in the Regional Airline business, and Skywest had gthe second highest Operating Profit.
Both did quite well, DESPITE their high salary burdens.
In plain English:
Operating Profit (or loss) in Millions:
Skywest -
2006 - 167,641
2007 - 182,175
2008 - 140,592
2009 - 140,036
2010 - 144,687
2011 - 90,552
AE-
2006 - 185,903
2007 - 185,713
2008 - 86,483
2009 - 152,222
2010 - 152,398
2011 - 93,875
Regional Airlines Salaries (in millions):
Skywest -
2006 - 431,611
2007 - 511,317
2008 - 515,580
2009 - 503,458
2010 - 541,557
2011 - 440,000
AE -
2006 - 486,653
2007 - 505,484
2008 - 488,819
2009 - 478,664
2010 - 505,605
2011 - 411,779
Skywest and AE have nearly identical profits and salaries over the past five years.
Skywest had the highest Salary burden in the Regional Airline business, while AE had the second highest.
AE had the highest Operating profit in the Regional Airline business, and Skywest had gthe second highest Operating Profit.
Both did quite well, DESPITE their high salary burdens.
The only two things this proves are:
1. There is a lot more in play than pilot salaries when deciding who gets a CPA.
AND
2. Pilots should never vote in a pay decrease.
09-13-2012 | 10:49 AM
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ASA is flying the CRJ out of DFW, not the LXJT guys in the 145.
Also, MatchPoint is correct in his statements, as stated before: show us anyone in a better position than SkyW/ASA/XJT. Until you do, you sir are the dbag. Look at their stock, 2x higher and then some above RJET. They are the only regional company that has issued dividends consecutively over the past decade+. Yes the stock has dipped quite a bit, so has everyone else's. I'd speculate that the SKYW stock is in he best position, relatively speaking, to go up in value.
Based on your statements you sound like your a pinnacle/RJET/goJetssss guy who wishes he was at SkyW/XJET
09-13-2012 | 10:56 AM
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LOL. Where did you come up with this? Did you dream this, wake up next to the computer, get on APC then rant off incoherent babble?
ASA is flying the CRJ out of DFW, not the LXJT guys in the 145.
Also, MatchPoint is correct in his statements, as stated before: show us anyone in a better position than SkyW/ASA/XJT. Until you do, you sir are the dbag. Look at their stock, 2x higher and then some above RJET. They are the only regional company that has issued dividends consecutively over the past decade+. Yes the stock has dipped quite a bit, so has everyone else's. I'd speculate that the SKYW stock is in he best position, relatively speaking, to go up in value.
Based on your statements you sound like your a pinnacle/RJET/goJetssss guy who wishes he was at SkyW/XJET
ASA is flying the CRJ out of DFW, not the LXJT guys in the 145.
Also, MatchPoint is correct in his statements, as stated before: show us anyone in a better position than SkyW/ASA/XJT. Until you do, you sir are the dbag. Look at their stock, 2x higher and then some above RJET. They are the only regional company that has issued dividends consecutively over the past decade+. Yes the stock has dipped quite a bit, so has everyone else's. I'd speculate that the SKYW stock is in he best position, relatively speaking, to go up in value.
Based on your statements you sound like your a pinnacle/RJET/goJetssss guy who wishes he was at SkyW/XJET
09-13-2012 | 11:15 AM
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However, just be be accurate, the salaries listed above are actually a total compensation burden for the entire airline - all employees and all pay and benefits, not just the pilots.
09-13-2012 | 11:27 AM
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Really guys. C'mon now. Please don't gloat. It's just not the classy thing to do.
A good friend of mine is a senior check airman with SKW. He has never exhibited the "mine is bigger than yours" attitude some of you guys display. In fact, he was the first to call and say sorry that this happened (I live out there, and while I am not based there right now - currently ORD CRJ - I was hoping to get back eventually. I guess it won't be happening now). His QOL stands to improve dramatically, but he didn't gloat. He called to say "sorry this happened, man". Class.
He's right when he stated that we work in a cannibalistic segment of the industry.
A good friend of mine is a senior check airman with SKW. He has never exhibited the "mine is bigger than yours" attitude some of you guys display. In fact, he was the first to call and say sorry that this happened (I live out there, and while I am not based there right now - currently ORD CRJ - I was hoping to get back eventually. I guess it won't be happening now). His QOL stands to improve dramatically, but he didn't gloat. He called to say "sorry this happened, man". Class.
He's right when he stated that we work in a cannibalistic segment of the industry.
09-13-2012 | 12:51 PM
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Thanks for the advice, most of us have gotten pretty good at being angry with AMR at this point. And now you can too, give it a few months. The flying is supposed to replace ATR routes, you'll need the nourishment from those nachos flying a 20+ leg 4 day. Enjoy.
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