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Old 09-12-2012, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly View Post
It's also referred to as "rationalization". You see, the future regional industry is doomed to a model whereby any success will have to be at others expense. Rats put in a cage to feed on each other and with that there isnt any long term survival unless you're willing to be the most ruthless rat (work the cheapest).
The same thing happened to ASA, now XJT, with losing aircraft and contacts to Pinnacle and GoJets. Nothing new. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:04 AM
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It's also referred to as "rationalization". You see, the future regional industry is doomed to a model whereby any success will have to be at others expense. Rats put in a cage to feed on each other and with that there isnt any long term survival unless you're willing to be the most ruthless rat (work the cheapest).
Which is also why I am baffled whenever I hear somebody say they plant to stick it out at their regional indefinitely. I'm at SkyWest, and am already looking for the next step. Our time will come, as it has for everybody else.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:09 AM
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Happy with our company's success and "hoping" Eagle pilots suffer aren't one in the same and it's pretty simple minded to think otherwise.
If any Eagle pilots loose their job, then I consider that suffering. Your companies success comes with a price. That, my friend, is not simple minded thought IMO.

I am just pointing out that there are people that are ready (and hoping) to benefit from this news.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:14 AM
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If any Eagle pilots loose their job, then I consider that suffering. Your companies success comes with a price. That, my friend, is not simple minded thought IMO.

I am just pointing out that there are people that are ready (and hoping) to benefit from this news.
Well, it IS more then just "loosing" your job. Damage in the form of stagnation can occur without anyone "loosing" their jobs.
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of course people want to benefit, that's human nature. however, seeing or hoping for suffering is not. my argument was that in this case they are not related.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:16 AM
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Well, it IS more then just "loosing" your job. Damage in the form of stagnation can occur without anyone "loosing" their jobs.
True. Job loss seamed to be the worst of the repercussions.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:18 AM
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Which is also why I am baffled whenever I hear somebody say they plant to stick it out at their regional indefinitely. I'm at SkyWest, and am already looking for the next step. Our time will come, as it has for everybody else.
What IS the next step ?

If you're thinking legacy, it might be awhile. We may be contracting at the rate of retirements for quite a few years as more of our domestic ops goes to feed the regional airline large RJ kabuki dance.

Your legs may be very sore for a long time. Who knows, perhaps AA will start hiring off the street after they get through 1500 pilots still out there with recall rights and flow thru ?

Perhaps that $40/hour new-hire slot WILL become available in 5 years or so ?
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"And, as previously announced, American has negotiated the early return of the ATRs. This fleet is old, and there are very high maintenance and leasing costs associated with these aircraft. This action will result in the closure of the Miami (MIA) Executive pilot and flight attendant domiciles on Nov. 15. However, all Executive pilots and flight attendants will be able to use their seniority to bid for positions at American Eagle including positions at MIA. We do not foresee any furloughs as a result of this displacement. We do anticipate that American Eagle will be providing more regional jet flying out of MIA to replace some of the discontinued ATR flying. Additionally, all MIA and Key West Executive employees will become American Eagle employees as of Jan. 1, 2013."

Do we have Key West Executive employees or was that supposed to be San Juan?
ATR flys into Key West. That was my first turn when I was at Eagle.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:27 AM
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It's also referred to as "rationalization". You see, the future regional industry is doomed to a model whereby any success will have to be at others expense. Rats put in a cage to feed on each other and with that there isnt any long term survival unless you're willing to be the most ruthless rat (work the cheapest).
K Marx said similar 150 years ago... welcome to capitalism.
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If AA merges with US Airways, flow through will be like a wet dream. More like vapor.
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