It's not company viability that I am referering to. Thousands of ALPA jobs would be more accurate.

Why does ASA continue to get more flying? Could it be that Pinnacle is just managed horrendously?

Not correct. Those in the right seat for 20 years choose to be there because they get so much time off and make as much or more than captains.

"Pilots fighting pilots. LOL!!!" Said airline management.

Does anyone really think that an airline like Delta is actually planning its fleet based on what contract 9E pilots approve or disapprove? The die has already been cast. Delta already knows who is getting what planes. It'd be silly to think that voting on concessions is going to make a real difference.

What the crap is this guy talking about? I can't see how people that travel a longer than normal distance to work because they don't live in base have anything to do with this.

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Sorry, had to comment

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For the record, I am a non-volunteer right seater at 16 years. Will I get to the left seat by 20? Maybe, but by no means certain. BTW, I would have to book 91 hrs per month on the ER to equal DC-9 Captain minimum reserve pay.

Full disclosure: I was a capt for four years until the axe fell.

In light of today's events and hearing things from the horse's mouth (TW) in MSP today that the handwriting is on the wall. There is no future for this pilot group, and we are not working in a growth industry. There is a point now, where one has to consider what their own personal situation is and how to best serve their own needs. However, I also feel that how we handle ourselves during this painful process is going to define our legacy as Pinnacle pilots (Pinnacle Airlines, Mesaba Airlines and Colgan Air collectively).
I don't think that I will be able to look myself in the mirror if I were to vote "yes" on a substandard contract that is going to have far-reaching effects on those that come after us. Best of luck, and I wish you all the best in the future...

How can you blame Delta pilots for wanting to fly Delta pax? I'm sorry to see Pinnacle guys put in this type of situation, but blaming anyone other than Pinnacle Mgmt. and Delta Mgmt. is misguided and unproductive.

Its called "Scope", something that was sold years ago!!!! I applaud the last contract voted in by Delta pilots, except the part of more 76 seat airplanes coming on property by regionals....WHY? It just adds to the race to the bottom, those planes could be flown by mainline pilots for mainline pay rates.