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Old 12-15-2012 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
The bottom line is most regionals don't have any hiring standards other than a pulse, and rightfully so at the wage they're offering. The majors pay more, therefore attracting a bigger pool, and can be picky about who they hire. But a flow to Delta without an interview? No way. You've got weed out the left seat addicts and the bad personalities.
Shy let me ask you, what do you think is more acceptable? An airline to hire a 250 hour pilot (such as yourself, when pinnacle gave you an opportunity that no other regional would have given you) or a flow from a regional to mainline for QUALIFIED pilots,(has degree, has enough flt time, no criminal record ect)?
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Old 12-15-2012 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by swamp
Shy let me ask you, what do you think is more acceptable? An airline to hire a 250 hour pilot (such as yourself, when pinnacle gave you an opportunity that no other regional would have given you) or a flow from a regional to mainline for QUALIFIED pilots,(has degree, has enough flt time, no criminal record ect)?
The answer is neither, flows are terrible in practice and they also cost negotiating capital that can be spent elsewhere. Scope recapture is what needs to happen.
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Old 12-15-2012 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by swamp
So are you saying there will be no more preferential hiring from Women of aviation international, black pilots of America, or lucky pilots with BARE minimums whose mommy and daddy are in management, all of which I know for a fact Delta have hired in the past over more competitive applicants, (me) , and in all cases these folks have a combination TPIC time of (drumroll)=0.... Spare all of us the BS that Delta only hires the best.....I've been busting my a%$ for the past 16 years to get on with Delta and can't even get a call, but someone with 3 years in the industry and the right physical attributes gets on with minimum experience...
You mean like that guy that runs the jetcareers website? He was hired at Delta while a Beech 1900 copilot at Skyway. But according to him, he deserved to get hired at Delta when he did.
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Old 12-15-2012 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The answer is neither, flows are terrible in practice and they also cost negotiating capital that can be spent elsewhere. Scope recapture is what needs to happen.
Thank you Shy!
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You mean like that guy that runs the jetcareers website? He was hired at Delta while a Beech 1900 copilot at Skyway. But according to him, he deserved to get hired at Delta when he did.
Unbelievable, yeah I met a 26 year old Delta FO years ago,
who was hired while an ASA FO, but she was pretty forth right and knew why she was hired( well at least why she got an interview, I believe YOU get the job, getting the interview, well that's another matter).

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Old 12-15-2012 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MEMbrain
You mean like that guy that runs the jetcareers website? He was hired at Delta while a Beech 1900 copilot at Skyway. But according to him, he deserved to get hired at Delta when he did.
Lets be fair, he did upgrade to Captain at Skyway, but had less than 1000 hrs TPIC when hired at Delta. I think it was about 2900 total and 700-800 TPIC. But what does that matter? I don't think he said he deserved to get hired at Delta. Delta right now requires 1200 total and 1000 turbine (SIC or PIC). Even a guy at a regional airline for one year qualifies for those minimums.
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Old 12-15-2012 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by swamp
Shy let me ask you, what do you think is more acceptable? An airline to hire a 250 hour pilot (such as yourself, when pinnacle gave you an opportunity that no other regional would have given you) or a flow from a regional to mainline for QUALIFIED pilots,(has degree, has enough flt time, no criminal record ect)?
Neither. Regionals shouldn't be hiring at 250 hrs but they did because of the wages being offered and not enough pilots showing up at the door. You're right at my opportunity, it was just luck and timing. But I do think it's crazy the opportunity I got. As for flow, I'm against it. Everyone should have to interview, and then earn the right to work there if they pass the interview process.


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Even you could compose yourself long enough to pass an interview.
Compose myself? What do you know about me that would hinder myself in an interview? I didn't compose myself or fake anything. At all my interviews I've done so far, I've always been just me. Nothing fake, just honest and being myself.
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Old 12-15-2012 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MEMbrain
You mean like that guy that runs the jetcareers website? He was hired at Delta while a Beech 1900 copilot at Skyway. But according to him, he deserved to get hired at Delta when he did.
So? Good for him! He used his connections and networked. Are you saying you don't feel like u deserve to be hired? If so u need to go get some self confidence man.
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Old 12-15-2012 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by swamp
Shy let me ask you, what do you think is more acceptable? An airline to hire a 250 hour pilot (such as yourself, when pinnacle gave you an opportunity that no other regional would have given you) or a flow from a regional to mainline for QUALIFIED pilots,(has degree, has enough flt time, no criminal record ect)?

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Old 12-15-2012 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by swamp
Ok so if I'm doing something wrong, please educate us all. When you got hired at Delta years ago what were your qualifications? TPIC, TT, and do you fit one of the three preferential hiring criteria I listed in my original post (WAI, BPA, hook ups with daddy/mommy) someone has posted that your parents are very well connected, just wondering if it's true..
5000 TT, 2000 TPIC, none of those 3 groups.

Dad was an NW pilot that retired in 2004, and I was hired by DL a year and a half before the merger was even announced. DL didn't know nor care who my dad was.

I had 2 referrals from retired non mgmt line pilots.

Not many of the people I know of that got interviewed fit in your 3 hook up categories. In fact, they are very much a minority of who gets called for interviews. Last round the hard floor for an interview no matter gender, race, or who mom/dad is was 4000 hours. The pilots' kids appeared to have a horrible pass rate in the interview. I know some were hired, but every one of them that I know did not get hired.
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Old 12-15-2012 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MEMbrain
You mean like that guy that runs the jetcareers website? He was hired at Delta while a Beech 1900 copilot at Skyway. But according to him, he deserved to get hired at Delta when he did.
Doug deserved every bit of what he has got (and I thought he upgraded), and has paid it forward to other aspiring pilots more than anyone I've ever seen. Calling him a class act is an understatement.
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