Pncl career progression to Delta
12-14-2012 | 07:47 PM
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Do you fly the same approaches as regional aircraft? Do you fly in and out of the same airports? I understand that you may think that Major airlines have better pilots than Regional airlines. If your airline has such a high standard for pilots flying their passengers then why on earth would they have these substandard pilots flying their passengers? They must be compromising safety for profit. Are you proud to work for an airline that does that, and a pilot group that allows it? Of course you are because you are better than regional pilots right? I don't post much on here but I can't stand the "I fly for a major so I'm better than you" type attitude I see all the time on here. We all start somewhere and work our way up. You are correct about bad apples in different pilot groups but we have all made mistakes flying and to generalize one group against another is ignorant. Mesaba never had a fatal accident. Did that make their HR better than Delta? Did that make their training better? I agree with you about the flow. If you want to get to a major do it on your own merit. Preferential interviews would be a nice gesture from our ALPA friends at the top and also from an airline that we are already carrying passengers for.
12-14-2012 | 07:53 PM
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If you work for Pinnacle, you know very much how the hiring process should barely even be called screening.
There are piles of loose cannons and crazies there that don't come anywhere close to being able to pass a major carrier's hiring process and are a complete pain to fly with.
Flying Delta pax is an unfortunate result of years of lack of scope awareness... that in itself in no way automatically means they deserve a job at mainline. Thankfully, that footprint is finally bring reduced with the new contract.
There are piles of loose cannons and crazies there that don't come anywhere close to being able to pass a major carrier's hiring process and are a complete pain to fly with.
Flying Delta pax is an unfortunate result of years of lack of scope awareness... that in itself in no way automatically means they deserve a job at mainline. Thankfully, that footprint is finally bring reduced with the new contract.
12-14-2012 | 07:56 PM
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Do you fly the same approaches as regional aircraft? Do you fly in and out of the same airports? I understand that you may think that Major airlines have better pilots than Regional airlines. If your airline has such a high standard for pilots flying their passengers then why on earth would they have these substandard pilots flying their passengers? They must be compromising safety for profit. Are you proud to work for an airline that does that, and a pilot group that allows it? Of course you are because you are better than regional pilots right? I don't post much on here but I can't stand the "I fly for a major so I'm better than you" type attitude I see all the time on here. We all start somewhere and work our way up. You are correct about bad apples in different pilot groups but we have all made mistakes flying and to generalize one group against another is ignorant. Mesaba never had a fatal accident. Did that make their HR better than Delta? Did that make their training better? I agree with you about the flow. If you want to get to a major do it on your own merit. Preferential interviews would be a nice gesture from our ALPA friends at the top and also from an airline that we are already carrying passengers for.
12-14-2012 | 08:03 PM
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And you'd be wrong.. Started flying 16 years ago only to fly for Delta. Been with pinnacle, well quite a bit longer than 3 years. Skeletons in my closet---- not even a speeding ticket... I'm a "legacy kid," aviation degree, TPIC coming out my rear, ect ect. I stand by my original post....
12-14-2012 | 08:08 PM
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Given, you've been in the industry longer than I have, so you might know more people, but I'm willing to guess that your elite airline just as many loose cannons as anywhere else. In fact, the only real single and unique attribute I've noticed about DAL pilots compared to every other airline is that they somehow believe they are God's gift to the flight deck. And the vast majority of them seem to contain the idea that they are better than everybody else. If I were you, and I really feel that way about my passengers, I would stand outside of an airport with a big sign telling them about the loose cannons who are about to fly them to DAL's hub. And how DAL sales tickets to passengers who will fly on airlines that say Delta, but the pilots aren't.
As far as the Gods gift to the cockpit, whatever. I dont see that at all. Almost everyone just comes to work, tries to have a good time and do their job right.
12-14-2012 | 08:10 PM
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Do you fly the same approaches as regional aircraft? Do you fly in and out of the same airports? I understand that you may think that Major airlines have better pilots than Regional airlines. If your airline has such a high standard for pilots flying their passengers then why on earth would they have these substandard pilots flying their passengers? They must be compromising safety for profit. Are you proud to work for an airline that does that, and a pilot group that allows it? Of course you are because you are better than regional pilots right? I don't post much on here but I can't stand the "I fly for a major so I'm better than you" type attitude I see all the time on here. We all start somewhere and work our way up. You are correct about bad apples in different pilot groups but we have all made mistakes flying and to generalize one group against another is ignorant. Mesaba never had a fatal accident. Did that make their HR better than Delta? Did that make their training better? I agree with you about the flow. If you want to get to a major do it on your own merit. Preferential interviews would be a nice gesture from our ALPA friends at the top and also from an airline that we are already carrying passengers for.
12-14-2012 | 08:17 PM
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I am just saying that if Delta wants to make sure that their passengers are flown by their standard of pilot then why would they farm out the regional end of it to the lowest bidder? Sounds like profit over safety. Unless they realize that regional pilots can do the same job as major pilots only at a much smaller cost. You have CRJ payrates in your contract right? Delta owns CRJ's right? So why not have the say on who flies them?
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