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Captain Tony 12-19-2012 08:28 AM

Aren't 60% of your pilots losing their jobs, even if you vote yes? If you're going out the door no matter what, it's pretty stupid to shoot yourself in the foot on the way out.

This concessionary contract will become the new industry standard that management at your next airline shoves down your throats.

Don't fall for it. Learn the lesson from Comair. If they're going to shut it down, they're going to shut it down, management just wants their bonuses and peer respect by knocking you down one last time!

shimmydamp 12-19-2012 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1315009)
Aren't 60% of your pilots losing their jobs, even if you vote yes? If you're going out the door no matter what, it's pretty stupid to shoot yourself in the foot on the way out.

This concessionary contract will become the new industry standard that management at your next airline shoves down your throats.

Don't fall for it. Learn the lesson from Comair. If they're going to shut it down, they're going to shut it down, management just wants their bonuses and peer respect by knocking you down one last time!

Reading your posts is like listening to Bluto give his famous speech in Animal House, except, you know, you have no skin in the game and aren't leading by example. But otherwise you are an inspiration, Tony. OK if I call you that? Or do I have to address you by Captain?

Pinchanickled 12-19-2012 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by shimmydamp (Post 1315040)
Reading your posts is like listening to Bluto give his famous speech in Animal House, except, you know, you have no skin in the game and aren't leading by example. But otherwise you are an inspiration, Tony. OK if I call you that? Or do I have to address you by Captain?


Hey Shimmy Damp,

Get off this website you management goon. It's obvious enough that your in management because of what you write and from your profile picture.

I mean, come on man! Nobody wears those "Paid in Full T-Shirts" it was an insult to have you guys pay out MILLIONS of dollars just to file bankruptcy after amidst all your executive compensation bonuses. A total slap in the face to have the executives dish out millions of bonuses when they "paid it in full" and all the pilots got was a T-shirt. The financial demise of this company is on your hands, not the pilots.

You've wrecked the company, don't think for a minute that we will support you to get more bonuses. Time to shut it down.


What a joke your management style is. All I have to say is:



BURN IT DOWN!

shimmydamp 12-19-2012 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Pinchanickled (Post 1315058)
Hey Shimmy Damp,

Get off this website you management goon. It's obvious enough that your in management because of what you write and from your profile picture.

I mean, come on man! Nobody wears those "Paid in Full T-Shirts" it was an insult to have you guys pay out MILLIONS of dollars just to file bankruptcy after amidst all your executive compensation bonuses. A total slap in the face to have the executives dish out millions of bonuses when they "paid it in full" and all the pilots got was a T-shirt. The financial demise of this company is on your hands, not the pilots.

You've wrecked the company, don't think for a minute that we will support you to get more bonuses. Time to shut it down.


What a joke your management style is. All I have to say is:



BURN IT DOWN!

Size 7 on the font, impressive.:cool:

80ktsClamp 12-19-2012 09:28 AM

Pinch- I'm not sure who you think shimmy is, but he isn't in MEM or MSP. (and I always assumed that paid in full avatar was a joke, just like I have the shirt as a joke)

shimmydamp 12-19-2012 09:34 AM


Pinch- I'm not sure who you think shimmy is, but he isn't in MEM or MSP. (and I always assumed that paid in full avatar was a joke, just like I have the shirt as a joke)
Wait- you aren't the dog from Up?

80ktsClamp 12-19-2012 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by shimmydamp (Post 1315066)
Wait- you aren't the dog from Up?

forgottobid got a nice picture of me back when we used carry personal jepps. I had pimped some help with revisions via my striking good looks and charm:

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...oBid/tempt.jpg

The Juice 12-19-2012 09:46 AM



Originally Posted by shimmydamp (Post 1315040)
Reading your posts is like listening to Bluto give his famous speech in Animal House, except, you know, you have no skin in the game and aren't leading by example. But otherwise you are an inspiration, Tony. OK if I call you that? Or do I have to address you by Captain?


Hey Shimmy Damp,

Get off this website you management goon. It's obvious enough that your in management because of what you write and from your profile picture.

I mean, come on man! Nobody wears those "Paid in Full T-Shirts" it was an insult to have you guys pay out MILLIONS of dollars just to file bankruptcy after amidst all your executive compensation bonuses. A total slap in the face to have the executives dish out millions of bonuses when they "paid it in full" and all the pilots got was a T-shirt. The financial demise of this company is on your hands, not the pilots.

You've wrecked the company, don't think for a minute that we will support you to get more bonuses. Time to shut it down.


What a joke your management style is. All I have to say is:



BURN IT DOWN!
Haha. Shimmy is the furthest thing from management. Sir, I know Shimmy and you are no Shimmy.

Bozo 12-19-2012 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by SmitteyB (Post 1314738)
Our union reps are volunteers. This is as much their job as it is ours. We deserve them the respect to reserve judgement until their hard work is displayed to us in full language. These are our brothers.

Unemployment benefits are based on what you were making prior to being let go. If vote yes and you are apart of the approx 1600 pilots that will be furloughed your unemployment benefits will be less than prior to the vote. Also, if you are displaced to the right seat would you make more on unemployment?

Look into retraining benefits that your state might offer if you are furloughed.

Good luck.

Bozo 12-19-2012 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by shimmydamp (Post 1315040)
Reading your posts is like listening to Bluto give his famous speech in Animal House, except, you know, you have no skin in the game and aren't leading by example. But otherwise you are an inspiration, Tony. OK if I call you that? Or do I have to address you by Captain?

Which one when the tough get going or the one to flounder?


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