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Originally Posted by Delta1067
(Post 1316688)
Delta took back a bunch of scope and this is still happening. As long as kids are lining up to fill the classes, the regionals will always pay low wages. Another way to fix this is for pilots to not take regional jobs and then and only then the wages might go up.
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
(Post 1316700)
Great idea! Because we all know how many check haulers with dripping wet ATPs get hired at the mainlines. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by vilcas
(Post 1316677)
I can't think of one advantage to vote NO. People keep talking about he emotional reasons to vote NO I am still waiting for a compelling reason. Even if you are the last guy on the seniority list YES with money in your pocket on the way out the door seems better than not getting that money especially since your pay rates are changing much anyway.
This new contract will most definitely be used as the new ruler to measure the competitions cost structure. |
Before deciding how to vote, take a look at what this TA would do to your unemployment benefits. In Texas for example, most folks will lose about $100/week. See for yourself:
https://services.twc.state.tx.us/UBS...tsEstimator.do |
Originally Posted by FlyJSH
(Post 1316700)
Great idea! Because we all know how many check haulers with dripping wet ATPs get hired at the mainlines. :rolleyes:
I never blamed it on mainline when I was at the regionals and I don't now either. It's an easy scape goat to say it's up to mainline to fix it. I say pilots shouldn't get into an industry that has become so cut throat in racing to the bottom. No one complained about the wages when we entered the industry and the pay was no where close to as high as it is now. It's about as invalid as a chicken or the egg debate to say that "only mainline pilots" can fix the mess that has become the regional airline. I wouldn't pursue the career if I was just starting out. Problem is there are still tons of pilots schools with SJS students who can't wait to fly the mighty RJ's. I say that is the problem. The bottom line is the well was poisioned a long time ago and there is really no fixing it. |
Originally Posted by FlyJSH
(Post 1316706)
Before deciding how to vote, take a look at what this TA would do to your unemployment benefits. In Texas for example, most folks will lose about $100/week. See for yourself:
https://services.twc.state.tx.us/UBS...tsEstimator.do |
I can't believe that no one has mentioned the poor special case Delta hires. Sounds like this flow interview agreement would screw them over hard. Let's have a moment of silence...
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
(Post 1316708)
I never blamed it on mainline when I was at the regionals and I don't now either. It's an easy scape goat to say it's up to mainline to fix it. I say pilots shouldn't get into an industry that has become so cut throat in racing to the bottom. No one complained about the wages when we entered the industry and the pay was no where close to as high as it is now. It's about as invalid as a chicken or the egg debate to say that "only mainline pilots" can fix the mess that has become the regional airline. I wouldn't pursue the career if I was just starting out. Problem is there are still tons of pilots schools with SJS students who can't wait to fly the mighty RJ's. I say that is the problem. The bottom line is the well was poisioned a long time ago and there is really no fixing it.
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
(Post 1316708)
I never blamed it on mainline when I was at the regionals and I don't now either. It's an easy scape goat to say it's up to mainline to fix it. I say pilots shouldn't get into an industry that has become so cut throat in racing to the bottom. No one complained about the wages when we entered the industry and the pay was no where close to as high as it is now. It's about as invalid as a chicken or the egg debate to say that "only mainline pilots" can fix the mess that has become the regional airline. I wouldn't pursue the career if I was just starting out. Problem is there are still tons of pilots schools with SJS students who can't wait to fly the mighty RJ's. I say that is the problem. The bottom line is the well was poisioned a long time ago and there is really no fixing it.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1316698)
Delta1067, I've just talked about the merits of this TA and how there isn't much incentive for a lot of guys to pass this. I don't think anyone is stupid, people have been trying to get out of 9E for quite some time now. This topic is about the merits of a TA.
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